Dahlias 2010 season

[Tel]

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Originally posted by tel7772

De-branched most of the dahlias today, just the kiwi's to do now.
A lot of growers will have done theirs already, for the August shows.
All mine are aimed for the Harrogate Show this year in mid September, followed by the Leeds Paxton show, those two are some of the larger shows for a dahlia grower, so any ready for earlier smaller shows this year will be a bonus.

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Should have waited tel, with this wind it would have done it for you !!

Glad I staked all mine up last weekend or the Mrs and the dog would have suffered.

This weekend is more disbudding and everyone's favourate job, vaselining the stems, 'NOT'.

My plot has its fare share of earwigs, so this is a must. Nout worse than nurturing a great bloom!! then you go to cut it just before a show only to find the buggers have chomped on the petals.

This year I smeared the main stem when i planted out and my word it has helped no end. This does not stop them climbing the canes to get onto the plant, so they need to be done too.

Cant use boric acid bait, cause of the grandnipper,plus the dog. Not worried about next doors cat, ruddy pain with cat crap etc.

Some growers sterilize the soil which kills all the weeds and earwig nests, not sure if i could get away with this as I have trees and other conifers nearby ?


Mark


Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 15/07/2010 : 18:02:42
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Never thought of doseing the canes with vaseline

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 16/07/2010 : 12:01:53
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Finished stripping down the dahlias to the number of stems i require per plant, yesterday.
The national Dahlia Society Annual arrived in the post this morning,
something to read now until the weather brightens up.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 16/07/2010 : 19:35:55
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The dahlia trials that are held at Golden Acre Park, Leeds.
27 raisers have sent 59 cultivars to be assessed this year, i shall be making the short journey later in the year, to do my own assessment of these dahlias.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 16/07/2010 : 19:49:16
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Is that more or less than usual?.....we very much look forward to your expert judgement.....

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tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 16/07/2010 : 19:54:02
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That is about the maximum the trial ground will hold, if they want to give the dahlias the space they need to grow to their potential.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 17/07/2010 : 19:03:05
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Picture from the dahlia annual, Cat made from dahlias on a float in a festival in Winkel, a small village in the north of Holland.


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 17/07/2010 : 19:11:36
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Marston lilac, the pic has not done the colour of it justice.


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 17/07/2010 : 20:22:35
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One of my favourites....never seen a pic yet to do it justice....it needs to be seen with the "naked" eye....you know what I mean Tel

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 18/07/2010 : 09:40:53
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Spent yesterday afternoon placing the canes round the dahlia plants.
Still not finished.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 14:14:50
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How is your Dahlia Windmill doing Tel? I’m very disappointed with mine, it’s much shorter than it is supposed to be so is quite lost behind other plants. The only similarity to the photo on the packet is the colour.

This is how it should look.



And this is how mine looks. I bought three plants and they are all the same.


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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 16:21:52
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My windmill has not flowered yet, a few buds on them, but i agree with you i thought it would have been taller.
Mine are more like bedding dahlias that would be OK at the front of the border.
I am fortunate in one way they are in pots so cannot hide themselves behind taller plants, i will post a pic when they flower, but looking at yours i think we have been had.
I can see mine finding a new home on the compost heap at the end of the season.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



longs
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436 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 16:36:01
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Looks to me the stock may be virused

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Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 16:54:02
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Its a sad reflection of what it should be WF

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Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 17:07:11
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Originally posted by tel7772

This dahlia Twynings After Eight, maybe of interest to Steve, he likes dark foliage plants.


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Do you know where I will be able to get some of these for next year?

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Wildlife_friendly
Mrs

4074 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 17:14:28
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Originally posted by Loublou

Its a sad reflection of what it should be WF

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I've not had much luck with Taylors dahlias this year, this is the second one that is wrong. Luckily the other is in a pot so it didn't upset a bed. I'll have to have a look for another one to go in the centre of the bed for next year.

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 17:31:46
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I would use those photos to complain to Taylors WF.


Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 17:31:54
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I would use those photos to complain to Taylors WF.


tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 19:49:05
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Originally posted by Wildlife_friendly


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Originally posted by tel7772

This dahlia Twynings After Eight, maybe of interest to Steve, he likes dark foliage plants.


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Do you know where I will be able to get some of these for next year?

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Halls of Heddon stocked it in their catalogue this season but they will not take any orders until about Nov.
I will ask the dahlia men if they have any stock when i meet up in Sept, if so i am sure they will let me have a tuber or cuttings.
I know Steve was keen on it as well.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Wildlife_friendly
Mrs

4074 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 20:12:58
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Thank you Tel



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Originally posted by Cherry

I would use those photos to complain to Taylors WF.

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I am considering writing to them, the flowers I don’t dislike but the height was important.

The collarette was a little treat to me because it was so pretty, the red and white (the one I bought) was lovely but mine turned out to be red and yellow, which I don’t like.

It’s not so much the money as the disappointment.



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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 20:16:54
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Originally posted by Wildlife_friendly


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Originally posted by tel7772

This dahlia Twynings After Eight, maybe of interest to Steve, he likes dark foliage plants.


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Do you know where I will be able to get some of these for next year?

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I NEARLY bought one of these from our local GC the other day...got an eryngium instead

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steve
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25134 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 20:22:09
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I do like that one Tel, it's a beauty


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Originally posted by tel7772


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Originally posted by Wildlife_friendly


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Originally posted by tel7772

This dahlia Twynings After Eight, maybe of interest to Steve, he likes dark foliage plants.


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Do you know where I will be able to get some of these for next year?

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Halls of Heddon stocked it in their catalogue this season but they will not take any orders until about Nov.
I will ask the dahlia men if they have any stock when i meet up in Sept, if so i am sure they will let me have a tuber or cuttings.
I know Steve was keen on it as well.

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Steve
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ANNUALJUNKIE
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3239 Posts Posted - 20/07/2010 : 21:44:22
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Suppose we'll get given out to here as well, but to answer u'r question Steve, no, I turn on the computer infrequently, but got your e this eve.

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[Tel]

My Windmill Dahlia has flowered, i have 3 plants of Windmill because i took a couple of cuttings from the original tuber i bought.
At least WF has red and white.


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 22/07/2010 : 17:10:22
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Is that it!!!!!.....nothing remotely like the original......wonder if Taylors have had many complaints?

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 22/07/2010 : 20:21:18
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Originally posted by Loublou

Is that it!!!!!.....nothing remotely like the original......wonder if Taylors have had many complaints?

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I do not have the packaging it was in, but i do not think Taylors supplied this one.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 12:54:46
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Gave the dahlias, in two of the beds their last feed of Chempac 3
Will switch to Chempac 4 in Aug.
Fed the Kiwi's with Chempac 2 this has a higher nitrogen content, i do not feed them fertiliser with a high potash content, this could give them green eyes.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 17:48:09
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Oops I will have to remember that

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longs
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436 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 18:06:38
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I never fed mine at all. Grew 'em hard

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tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 20:05:01
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Just 2 dahlias in flower on the allotment at the moment, Marston Lilac and Marys Jomanda, both are at the same stage in development.
So i have removed the petals from both their centres, if neither of them are sterile i am hoping the bees will cross pollinate them, so i can keep the seed for next year.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 20:10:46
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Originally posted by tel7772

My Windmill Dahlia has flowered, i have 3 plants of Windmill because i took a couple of cuttings from the original tuber i bought.
At least WF has red and white.


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That's worse than mine. I still have my packet, mine came from Taylors. How can they get them so wrong?

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longs
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436 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 20:24:58
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Originally posted by tel7772

Just 2 dahlias in flower on the allotment at the moment, Marston Lilac and Marys Jomanda, both are at the same stage in development.
So i have removed the petals from both their centres, if neither of them are sterile i am hoping the bees will cross pollinate them, so i can keep the seed for next year.

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Use a small paint brush then bag the flowers - saves waiting for nature!

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Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 21:15:06
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Originally posted by longs

I never fed mine at all. Grew 'em hard

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Absolutely nothing?...

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 21:20:17
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Originally posted by tel7772

Just 2 dahlias in flower on the allotment at the moment, Marston Lilac and Marys Jomanda, both are at the same stage in development.
So i have removed the petals from both their centres, if neither of them are sterile i am hoping the bees will cross pollinate them, so i can keep the seed for next year.

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Heck that sounds complicated

I have Marston Lilac in "coloured bud". Jomanda in flower; Winholmes Diane in flower and T. Ruby in coloured bud....

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longs
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436 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 21:32:07
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Originally posted by longs

I never fed mine at all. Grew 'em hard

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Absolutely nothing?...

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No. Nothing. Just let them beg
'but we'll do our best' they cried, and they did

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Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 21:51:03
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Hm....it would certainly save me lugging watering cans of feed up the lottie....I've been feeding them high potash every 2 weeks or so....will they get withdrawal symptoms if I stop feeding?

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.


longs
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436 Posts Posted - 23/07/2010 : 22:11:46
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Hm....it would certainly save me lugging watering cans of feed up the lottie....I've been feeding them high potash every 2 weeks or so....will they get withdrawal symptoms if I stop feeding?

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I'll be serious for a minute, you need to know your land, your plants and how they work together. I posted back awhile ago about what works for one doesn't mean it works for others. I never made notes of stopping dates, de branching etc, as every year is different. I just had gut feelings for what I thought was right for my plants at the time. Yes, perhaps they had a dose of general feed in the growing time but that's all - watering was the most important and, of course, the soil was well prepared for what was coming.


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pennyron
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11738 Posts Posted - 24/07/2010 : 07:07:33
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I find this a very interesting topic as there are some who say 'never water' or feed. A chap called Cooper used to say don't dig! They say that if the soil preparation is right they don't need any help. I'm inclined to agree though I do the opposite. My excuse is that I only have a foot of soil beyond which is solid clay and only trees n' shrubs can penetrate it.


Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 24/07/2010 : 07:46:23
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Originally posted by longs


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Hm....it would certainly save me lugging watering cans of feed up the lottie....I've been feeding them high potash every 2 weeks or so....will they get withdrawal symptoms if I stop feeding?

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I'll be serious for a minute, you need to know your land, your plants and how they work together. I posted back awhile ago about what works for one doesn't mean it works for others. I never made notes of stopping dates, de branching etc, as every year is different. I just had gut feelings for what I thought was right for my plants at the time. Yes, perhaps they had a dose of general feed in the growing time but that's all - watering was the most important and, of course, the soil was well prepared for what was coming.









This is certainly food for thought Longs; thank you. Where I have my dahlias planted at the moment is land that is new to me i.e. an allotment I took over in January. I prepared it best I could i.e. weeded, turned over and dug in as much compost; home grown and bags of well rotted from the GC....must admit the plants are not as I would like them.cuttings were difficult this year and..very dry weather after they were planted out...and hosepipe watering is not as good as raining.

Would be interested to hear what other growers are experiencing.....?

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 24/07/2010 : 07:48:34
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Has Long's says you need to know your plot and your plants, this cannot happen overnight, just through experience, some varieties will grow for you, others will not.
I have always fed and watered mine, i find the giants especially need a lot of water.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



longs
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436 Posts Posted - 24/07/2010 : 08:09:51
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some varieties will grow for you, others will not.


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A very valid point,Tel. This is why you need to concentrate on the varieties that do grow well for you.However well 'Fred down the road' grows and shows a particular variety does not mean you can as well.
If feeding and watering etc works for you then keep at it. If it doesn't, don't do it.
One of the reasons I didn't really feed was it made the plants too 'soft'. The ground,I felt,already had the goodness that the plants needed.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 24/07/2010 : 09:11:40
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Thanks boys

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tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 26/07/2010 : 12:29:19
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Another seedling that may be consigned to the compost heap.
Poor centre and this one the first bloom has not dressed back to the stem.


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 29/07/2010 : 09:15:10
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Checked all the dahlia plants yesterday, for any stems with flower buds, there was not many of them, these have now been knocked back.

I will be returning the dahlia trophies back to the societies after cleaning them up, they have been in the bottom of the wardrobe since last Sept.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 29/07/2010 : 19:48:49
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Seedling Miniature Decorative.


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 29/07/2010 : 19:50:59
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Pasadoble


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



longs
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436 Posts Posted - 29/07/2010 : 20:26:07
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Originally posted by tel7772

Seedling Miniature Decorative.


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That's looking nice,Tel. May have a 'fading at the edges' problem in strong sun.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 29/07/2010 : 20:32:52
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Should be ok under my dirty covers Longs.

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[Tel]

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Should be ok under my dirty covers Longs.

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LOL

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 29/07/2010 : 21:50:28
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Pasadoble


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I've had quite a few blooms from my Pasadoble already...Nice and cheerful

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 30/07/2010 : 13:34:15
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Brenda T, small decorative, this is only the first season i have grown it from my own cuttings, i bought plants last year.
I stopped this variety 1st week in July. it was going to be in flower by mid Aug, i have had to knock back 25% of the stems.
I have now got my fingers crossed that i have some blooms from this variety mid Sept, but that's part of the learning curve with a new variety.
All Dahlia suppliers would help a lot if they told the purchaser if the plants were early, mid or a late season variety, plus how many up they recommend to grow, this could save a whole season learning how to grow it.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 30/07/2010 : 16:13:13
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Originally posted by longs


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Seedling Miniature Decorative.


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That's looking nice,Tel. May have a 'fading at the edges' problem in strong sun.

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I will take some cuttings from it in Sept if they root i will keep them in 3in pots on the kitchen window sill, i did this last year with another plant the resulting plants got very drawn over winter they looked more like a trailing plants.
I took some cuttings from them in March they were has thin as match sticks, but surprisingly they have still made powerful plants.

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pennyron
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11738 Posts Posted - 30/07/2010 : 16:46:37
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The blue and the yellow ones are splendid.


longs
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436 Posts Posted - 30/07/2010 : 17:27:26
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this could save a whole season learning how to grow it.

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Not necessarily true. All plants will grow differently particularly in different parts of the Country.
There is only one way to find out how to grow a variety isn't there Tel!!


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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 30/07/2010 : 17:53:20
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Originally posted by tel7772
this could save a whole season learning how to grow it.

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Not necessarily true. All plants will grow differently particularly in different parts of the Country.
There is only one way to find out how to grow a variety isn't there Tel!!


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Thats true, but i am not getting any younger.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 01/08/2010 : 09:15:40
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Dahlia Trials at Golden Acre Park, Leeds, 2009


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 01/08/2010 : 19:10:58
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Originally posted by tel7772

Seedling Miniature Decorative.


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One of the allotment tenants saw this today and asked me if she could have it.
I told her for that dahlia, it would cost her a arm and a leg, but no money.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 01/08/2010 : 21:18:48
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She has good taste and she did ask. Some may not.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 02/08/2010 : 07:18:32
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She has good taste and she did ask. Some may not.

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I did give her and one or two other people on the allotment some spare plants, but there is only one plant of this, in the whole world.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 02/08/2010 : 13:51:05
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The dahlia t-shirt taken at the Shelf Show, not a very good pic though.



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David Boyd, dahlia champion during the early nineties, borrowed my t shirt.


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Les1603
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2589 Posts Posted - 02/08/2010 : 17:02:42
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Originally posted by tel7772


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Originally posted by tel7772

Seedling Miniature Decorative.


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One of the allotment tenants saw this today and asked me if she could have it.
I told her for that dahlia, it would cost her a arm and a leg, but no money.

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That is beautiful Tel, is there any tuber's going for next year What's it called love the colour.


Les1603
Mrs

2589 Posts Posted - 02/08/2010 : 17:18:43
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Can anyone tell me the names of these Dahlia's as I've lost the label





This one I think is Arabian Night.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 02/08/2010 : 19:41:45
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Originally posted by tel7772


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Seedling Miniature Decorative.


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One of the allotment tenants saw this today and asked me if she could have it.
I told her for that dahlia, it would cost her a arm and a leg, but no money.

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That is beautiful Tel, is there any tuber's going for next year What's it called love the colour.

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That dahlia is a seedling i have grown Les, so there will be only one tuber from it at the end of the season.
I will try and take cuttings from it in Sept, i hope to keep them growing through the winter on the kitchen window sill, if successful i will take cuttings from those plants next March or April.
I may then be able to give you a rooted cutting.
This dahlia is unnamed as yet.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 02/08/2010 : 19:44:34
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Les the 3 dahlias you need the names for, are what i call garden dahlias, and i do not take much notice of what they are called, someone may know their names.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 02/08/2010 : 20:05:13
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Back in 1994, i was given a video for Christmas, called Cultivation with the Champions of the National Dahlia Society of Great Britain.
On the video is 4 growers of the time, David Boyd (my dahlia man hero) Derek hewlett, the then President of the society, Robin Pearce, Pom champion, and Roger Turell who still shows today.

I thought i had lost this video, i was sure someone had borrowed it and failed to return it, this was 14 years ago, i found it today in with some old videos, it had been placed in the wrong case all this time.
Fortunately i still have a video player, so today i copied it to DVD
This video taught me a lot when i first got into growing and showing dahlias.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Les1603
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2589 Posts Posted - 02/08/2010 : 20:51:39
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Tel your dahlia looks very much like Hugs and Kisses.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 02/08/2010 : 20:57:07
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The same decorative form of petal, but i think the seedling has a bigger petal count and not as long has Hugs and Kisses .

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



longs
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436 Posts Posted - 02/08/2010 : 21:18:43
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Derek hewlett

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Now that is a very familiar name to me. From Hayes, I believe, he was a giant Dec grower/shower and always vased his blooms for the London National on the steps of the RHS hall before staging them.
He was often the winner of the A.T.Barnes Challenge trophy (Giant Decs,12 varieties, one bloom of each) and was the winner of that class at the National Centenary Show in 1981. ( I remember it well)

(I could also name all the varities he won with )

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 03/08/2010 : 07:24:04
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Derek hewlett

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Now that is a very familiar name to me. From Hayes, I believe, he was a giant Dec grower/shower and always vased his blooms for the London National on the steps of the RHS hall before staging them.
He was often the winner of the A.T.Barnes Challenge trophy (Giant Decs,12 varieties, one bloom of each) and was the winner of that class at the National Centenary Show in 1981. ( I remember it well)

(I could also name all the varities he won with )

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Derek had a fantastic record at the National Show,


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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 03/08/2010 : 19:23:32
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Dahlia, Nepos waterlily variety.


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



sweetpea
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used to go over to Hayes Chrysanth and Dahlia society's annual plant auction and D.H. would always be there doing his auctioneer bit.
A great place to get a load of top plants cheap.
I don't know if they still hold it but well worth a visit if they do.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 04/08/2010 : 19:29:51
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Derek Hewletts winning exhibit in the Stuart Ogg Challenge Cup,
for 6 Large Decoratives.


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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 04/08/2010 : 19:33:46
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Derek Hewlett, staging at the National Show.


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Originally posted by longs

I never fed mine at all. Grew 'em hard

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Derek Hewlett, did not feed his plants either Longs, but he did mulch them with 25 tons of cow manure.
He did not keep growing records either, he had a board he used, he called it his 100 day board.
He used this 100 days before the national, 100 days he started to plant out, 70 days he started to stop them the later flowering varieties first, he used it for his disbudding dates as well.
So to say he never kept records, he did not do to badly in his showing eh.


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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 05/08/2010 : 08:45:20
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42 days to go for Harrogate.

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WoodfordDahlias6
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42 days to go for Harrogate.

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8 days till Shrewsbury:

Charlie Two not looking too bad ? some are a bit early but they hold their shape well. I have quite a few about a week away from prime.









Mark




WoodfordDahlias6
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Trengrove Millenium, 1st 10 plants too early. have 10 more not quite there but fingers crossed. They are under covers, to stop the rain and weather marking them. I hope !!


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 05/08/2010 : 09:32:09
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Hi Mark, how you doing getting the trengrove to size? i can never really get them big enough.

Charlie Two, sounds like you may have some of them ready for the show
i hope so anyway.

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longs
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quote:
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Originally posted by longs

I never fed mine at all. Grew 'em hard

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Derek Hewlett, did not feed his plants either Longs, but he did mulch them with 25 tons of cow manure.
He did not keep growing records either, he had a board he used, he called it his 100 day board.
He used this 100 days before the national, 100 days he started to plant out, 70 days he started to stop them the later flowering varieties first, he used it for his disbudding dates as well.
So to say he never kept records, he did not do to badly in his showing eh.


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I think that goes to show that the fundamentals need to be right. ie: ground should be in good heart, knowing the plants and the land.

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WoodfordDahlias6
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111 Posts Posted - 05/08/2010 : 14:43:52
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Hi Mark, how you doing getting the trengrove to size? i can never really get them big enough.

Charlie Two, sounds like you may have some of them ready for the show
i hope so anyway.

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This is only my 2nd year growing Trengrove, grown 4 up, disbudding everything as early as possible. One half rate feed of nitrogen early season then revert to a high potash feed every 2 weeks from mid july onwards.

They dont like shady plots as the stems go week. Loads of watering,and slap the vaselene on the stems early doors too as the earwigs love them.

Marking of the petals is also a problem, so covering the minute you get bud colour is a must !!

I think you could go to 3 up if needed !! if size is a problem. My ground is good for mediums.

Trengrove has a very short shelf life from prime to showtime, not like Charlie Two which from prime to showbench of a good week +.


Mark


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 05/08/2010 : 19:28:38
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I have had the Trengrove now for 4 years and only put it in a show once, marked up to easy for me here.
I decided to drop it this season, and will stick with Charlie Two and BJ Beauty.

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longs
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and will stick with BJ Beauty.

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Another old timer eh!


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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 05/08/2010 : 19:56:22
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The show schedules are coming through the door nearly everyday now.
I noticed in the Leeds Paxton Schedule the dahlia judge is David Matthewman, Sweetpea may know him, David is better known for his sweetpea nursery these days, though he still is a qualified Dahlia Judge.
I finished in second place in the Leeds Championship last season at Paxton, Must try harder, sounds like one of my old school reports.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 05/08/2010 : 19:59:46
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and will stick with BJ Beauty.

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Another old timer eh!


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Stands the damp better than the Trengrove, longs.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 07/08/2010 : 08:40:04
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Will have to move the covers from their storage area this weekend and re-cover some that got torn at the backend of last season, in a strong wind.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 07/08/2010 : 14:47:30
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The excitement is building.

I was admiring the pretty dahlia which my neighbour is growing and found the stems to the flowers were black with blackfly. She keeps bees, so is there a bee friendly blackfly killer available? The dahlia next to this was not affected.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 07/08/2010 : 19:18:12
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If she keeps bees, and not many stems have the blackfly, i would rub my fingers up and down the stems and squash them, or cut the stem off and dispose of them that way, she will have plenty more flowers to come.

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Janbrad
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1326 Posts Posted - 07/08/2010 : 19:43:03
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772

The show schedules are coming through the door nearly everyday now.
I noticed in the Leeds Paxton Schedule the dahlia judge is David Matthewman, Sweetpea may know him, David is better known for his sweetpea nursery these days, though he still is a qualified Dahlia Judge.I finished in second place in the Leeds Championship last season at Paxton, Must try harder, sounds like one of my old school reports.

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Well I never knew that! I am growing one of his sweetpea varieties this year. I bought them from him at Harrogate last year.


Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 07/08/2010 : 19:53:53
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Thankyou Tel. I will let my neighbour know. She is a Churchwarden so I will see her there.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 08/08/2010 : 08:15:10
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Yesterday was our Dereks first show of the season, here are a couple of his winning dahlia exhibits.

A first for a vase of Taratahi Ruby.


Specimen bloom class.
First,Second and third with Jomanda,Hy Fashion and L,Ancresse.


You can find his report on Dereks Diary.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



grindle
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15010 Posts Posted - 08/08/2010 : 08:20:20
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congratulations Derek


Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 08/08/2010 : 11:48:44
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Good start to the season, and good to see pics on Dahlia topic.


Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 08/08/2010 : 17:59:48
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Taratahi Ruby...one of my favourites
Well done Derek

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 08/08/2010 : 18:47:34
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Dahlia Hootenanny.


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 08/08/2010 : 18:51:57
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Dahlia beds today.






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[Tel]

Crooked Stems

This season I have tried to be a little ahead of myself if thats possible growing these things /

In consequence quite a few of my dahlias have crooked stems !! I have heard this is sometimes caused by disbudding the wing buds too early.

Can tell or any of our resident experts shed any light on this ? the crooked stems are straight but are offset below the 1st pair of leaves where you take the wingbuds off.


Mark


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 09/08/2010 : 13:34:34
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I have found that can happen as well Mark, what the answer is i do not know, it is something i have just lived with.
Maybe i will have to do an experiment and start disbudding the wing buds on a particular variety at different ages and see what happens.

Maybe longs has the answer he is an old hand at growing dahlias for the show, or Paul if he pops in.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 09/08/2010 : 15:36:26
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I have a feeling we will get to the 1000 mark before the season is over.
There could be a dahlias part 2 yet.

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longs
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I have found that can happen as well Mark, what the answer is i do not know, it is something i have just lived with.
Maybe i will have to do an experiment and start disbudding the wing buds on a particular variety at different ages and see what happens.

Maybe longs has the answer he is an old hand at growing dahlias for the show, or Paul if he pops in.

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Taxing the memory cells a bit now but from what I can recall I took off those side buds as early as possible; just large enough to get them out without damage. The central bud stem was still soft.
Another trick that some growers did was a split cane and twist-its joining the top stem and lower stem below the leaf joint (does that make sense?) keeping the 'two halves' in a straight line.
Another way was if the top stalk was a little at an angle, the thumb and 3 fingers could be run up the stem to just below the top bud and held upright for a minute of two, that would often also do the trick; only if the stem was still 'soft', of course.

As a side note. Constantly removing those side buds becomes habit forming; not a problem in it's self but when visiting other growers plots I had to keep my hands in my pockets or wear mittens



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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 09/08/2010 : 19:38:54
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Hi longs, i always try to take the wing buds out as small has possible, unless i am going to grow a wing bud instead of a central one, but you know how easy it is to miss a stem now and again and the wing buds are bigger than you would like.
I have used a lot of split canes over the years before the stem hardened up to straighten them but also missed a few has well, then i have to rely on the foliage hiding that bent part of the stem in the vase.
PS i knew the question would get the memory cells going, but i had every confidence in you to come up with the answer.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



longs
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436 Posts Posted - 09/08/2010 : 20:09:12
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772
then i have to rely on the foliage hiding that bent part of the stem in the vase.


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That's the art of good staging. At the end of the day the red card goes to the best 5 (or 3) matching blooms.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 09/08/2010 : 20:25:40
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quote:
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Originally posted by longs


quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772

I have found that can happen as well Mark, what the answer is i do not know, it is something i have just lived with.
Maybe i will have to do an experiment and start disbudding the wing buds on a particular variety at different ages and see what happens.

Maybe longs has the answer he is an old hand at growing dahlias for the show, or Paul if he pops in.

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Taxing the memory cells a bit now but from what I can recall I took off those side buds as early as possible; just large enough to get them out without damage. The central bud stem was still soft.
Another trick that some growers did was a split cane and twist-its joining the top stem and lower stem below the leaf joint (does that make sense?) keeping the 'two halves' in a straight line.
Another way was if the top stalk was a little at an angle, the thumb and 3 fingers could be run up the stem to just below the top bud and held upright for a minute of two, that would often also do the trick; only if the stem was still 'soft', of course.

As a side note. Constantly removing those side buds becomes habit forming; not a problem in it's self but when visiting other growers plots I had to keep my hands in my pockets or wear mittens []



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I cannot visit other growers plots, in case i am tempted to go home with unauthorised cuttings.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 09/08/2010 : 21:04:12
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tsk....better not come here then.....lol (just joking)

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derekbrooks
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2530 Posts Posted - 09/08/2010 : 22:59:54
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If you look at the picture on the previous page of my winning Taratahi Ruby ,the class on the left is for" 3 blooms decorative".The red ones that won were Karenglen and the ones that came second of which you can just see one bloom were Mary,s Jomanda.I thought Mary,s Jomanda was a miniature ball.Are you allowed to show it as a decorative?What do you other dahlia growers think?


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 07:45:17
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quote:
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Originally posted by derekbrooks

If you look at the picture on the previous page of my winning Taratahi Ruby ,the class on the left is for" 3 blooms decorative".The red ones that won were Karenglen and the ones that came second of which you can just see one bloom were Mary,s Jomanda.I thought Mary,s Jomanda was a miniature ball.Are you allowed to show it as a decorative?What do you other dahlia growers think?
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Derek, Marys Jomanda was re-classified in the 2009 NDS Classified Directory & Judging Rules has a Miniature Ball.
Marys Jomanda was shown as a Decorative, the Judge should have NAS the exhibit.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



longs
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436 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 08:16:25
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772


quote:
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Originally posted by derekbrooks

If you look at the picture on the previous page of my winning Taratahi Ruby ,the class on the left is for" 3 blooms decorative".The red ones that won were Karenglen and the ones that came second of which you can just see one bloom were Mary,s Jomanda.I thought Mary,s Jomanda was a miniature ball.Are you allowed to show it as a decorative?What do you other dahlia growers think?
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Derek, Marys Jomanda was re-classified in the 2009 NDS Classified Directory & Judging Rules has a Miniature Ball.
Marys Jomanda was shown as a Decorative, the Judge should have NAS the exhibit.
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Was the Dahlia section being judged under NDS rules? If yes, then Tel is quite correct.

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WoodfordDahlias6
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111 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 09:49:56
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772

I have found that can happen as well Mark, what the answer is i do not know, it is something i have just lived with.
Maybe i will have to do an experiment and start disbudding the wing buds on a particular variety at different ages and see what happens.

Maybe longs has the answer he is an old hand at growing dahlias for the show, or Paul if he pops in.

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Mary's Jomanda would be a good one to experiment with, it's quite prone to bent stems or at least mine are !!

Maybe I need to wait till the sidebuds get a bit longer ie: 2 inches before i get my grubby fingers on it.

Its seems strange how one plant I disbudded late because I missed it has all straight stems. Perhaps the answer was right under my nose !!

The others disbudded early have the odd one or two bent stems. This is a right pain matching blooms because of the slight colour variation with this variety, we would all like 5 blooms from the same plant with matching blooms both colour and stems.

You live and learn !! The mrs has given me the go ahead to dig up half the back garden next year to increase my growing plot, virgin soil, lots of horse muck methinks ?

In return she gets a new patio and revamped garden in the non dahlia bit, seems a fare deal. Get digging then girlie I say, Get your sister to help you moving the heavy slabs.

Mark


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 10:50:35
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quote:
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Originally posted by longs


quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772


quote:
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Originally posted by derekbrooks

If you look at the picture on the previous page of my winning Taratahi Ruby ,the class on the left is for" 3 blooms decorative".The red ones that won were Karenglen and the ones that came second of which you can just see one bloom were Mary,s Jomanda.I thought Mary,s Jomanda was a miniature ball.Are you allowed to show it as a decorative?What do you other dahlia growers think?
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Derek, Marys Jomanda was re-classified in the 2009 NDS Classified Directory & Judging Rules has a Miniature Ball.
Marys Jomanda was shown as a Decorative, the Judge should have NAS the exhibit.
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Was the Dahlia section being judged under NDS rules? If yes, then Tel is quite correct.

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Most of the smaller shows have a judge for all flowers in the show.
There is not enough dahlia judges to go round.
Most dahlia exhibitors know what is a good vase and what is not,
but you win when you should not have, you lose when you should have won. These judges do not even ring them, i have said before i have won with vases that i knew a bloom was oversize, but would not have used that bloom in another show, because i know it would have received a NAS.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 12:27:23
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We only have 4 dahlia judges to cover the whole of West Yorkshire,
Northumberland is the same with 4, David Boyd is one he moved from Newcastle to Alnwick.
Surrey has the most with 10 dahlia judges.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Cherry
Moderator

13929 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 13:05:06
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You live and learn !! The mrs has given me the go ahead to dig up half the back garden next year to increase my growing plot, virgin soil, lots of horse muck methinks ?

In return she gets a new patio and revamped garden in the non dahlia bit, seems a fare deal. Get digging then girlie I say, Get your sister to help you moving the heavy slabs.

Mark
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I had to laugh at your cheek Mark. I hope she reads this.


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11991 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 13:33:08
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You live and learn !! The mrs has given me the go ahead to dig up half the back garden next year to increase my growing plot, virgin soil, lots of horse muck methinks ?

In return she gets a new patio and revamped garden in the non dahlia bit, seems a fare deal. Get digging then girlie I say, Get your sister to help you moving the heavy slabs.



You won't get any supper tonight mark

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Back to Aberdeenshire Rosie


Rosie8032
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11991 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 13:36:23
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Dahlia Hootenanny.


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Ooo thats really pretty, think i may try and source that one next year

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 14:47:41
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Rosie, remind me early in the New Year and i will send you a cutting or two, of Hootenanny

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Rosie8032
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11991 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 15:24:29
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Thank you so much Tel, that would be wonderful I shall set an alarm on my phone to remind me It's such a nice dahlia

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 16:38:17
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Isn't it just....mine arn't in flower yet

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longs
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436 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 16:55:22
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772

We only have 4 dahlia judges to cover the whole of West Yorkshire,
Northumberland is the same with 4, David Boyd is one he moved from Newcastle to Alnwick.
Surrey has the most with 10 dahlia judges.

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I appreciate that there are shortages of judges, nevertheless if Dahlias are being judged under NDS rules then even a non NDS judge must use the criteria of the NDS rules. If the judging is not to NDS rules then it is up to the judge.
The point I'm trying to make here is that the standards set down by the NDS must be adhered to otherwise the standards slip and there is then no point in having qualified judges or even rules.
(Surry also has more Dahlia showers/growers, probably)

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 10/08/2010 : 18:01:35
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Rosie, you will have some lovely plants in your new garden next year.


Rosie8032
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Oh i do hope so Cherry, in a couple of years once the plants have grown a bit it should be pretty good

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Thanks for answering my query about Mary,s Jomanda.I only have a 2007 directory and it isnt in there .The judge was a general flower judge but mostly a chrysanth man.Another mistake I think he made,but nothing to do with dahlias,was in a class for "a vase of herbaceous perennials".He gave the first prize to hydrangeas!


Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 11/08/2010 : 08:48:18
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Oh Derek, that is really shameful and so obviously wrong.


sootycat
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6003 Posts Posted - 11/08/2010 : 09:56:43
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Hootenanny Collerette type. This is now spot on for showing, note this bloom has a couple of rings of pollen this is how it should be on the show bench.


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beautiful Tel


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 11/08/2010 : 17:04:55
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Sent my entries off today for Harrogate.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 11/08/2010 : 17:13:20
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Sent my entries off today for Harrogate.

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6890 Posts Posted - 11/08/2010 : 20:13:57
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Sent my entries off today for Harrogate.

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I have entered 20 classes to keep my options open,
on what if anything i have to take on the day.
The 3 main classes i have put an entry in for are, the Small Decoratives championship, the Small Cactus and/or Semi Cactus Championship. The Intermediate Championship Class.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 12/08/2010 : 07:49:34
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We look forward to seeing the trophies our Tel

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Rosie8032
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11991 Posts Posted - 12/08/2010 : 09:06:08
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Good luck our Tel

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 12/08/2010 : 19:49:10
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I don't know about that lou, just to have an entry would be nice.

Thanks Rosie there will be pics win or lose.

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grindle
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15010 Posts Posted - 13/08/2010 : 07:44:39
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that's a beauty Tel


tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 13/08/2010 : 13:42:38
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This is not one of mine, but it is nearly Christmas.


Christmas Carol.


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 13/08/2010 : 20:58:54
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That’s what one of mine was supposed to look like, I wrote to Taylors last week to complain about the Dahlia Windmill and that one, as expected I’ve heard nothing.

Our local show has a class for Dahlias, can I put any of my single flowered dahlias in or do they have to be the really fancy ones?

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 13/08/2010 : 21:51:12
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What does the schedule say WF ie Decorative Cactus etc.


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derekbrooks
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2530 Posts Posted - 13/08/2010 : 22:52:50
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If the schedule doesn,t specify any particular type,of course you can put them in and good luck.


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4074 Posts Posted - 14/08/2010 : 16:44:25
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It just says 4 Dahlia flowers. I might give it a go next year.

Should I be looking for four flowers that look identical?

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6890 Posts Posted - 14/08/2010 : 19:55:31
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It just says 4 Dahlia flowers. I might give it a go next year.

Should I be looking for four flowers that look identical?

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Has identical as possible WF, is that 4 flowers in one vase? it seems a strange number, it is usually 3 or 5 to a vase, unless they are the giant variety then it is 3 blooms one to a vase.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 16/08/2010 : 07:45:19
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Continued disbudding, and putting a ring of vaseline 4in below the bud on the stems that were showing a bit of colour.
Will feed with chempac 4 today.

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Wildlife_friendly
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It just says 4 Dahlia flowers. I might give it a go next year.

Should I be looking for four flowers that look identical?

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Has identical as possible WF, is that 4 flowers in one vase? it seems a strange number, it is usually 3 or 5 to a vase, unless they are the giant variety then it is 3 blooms one to a vase.

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I just had a look at the entry form and it is four. The class just reads "Four Dahlias"

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 17/08/2010 : 08:12:17
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It just says 4 Dahlia flowers. I might give it a go next year.

Should I be looking for four flowers that look identical?

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Has identical as possible WF, is that 4 flowers in one vase? it seems a strange number, it is usually 3 or 5 to a vase, unless they are the giant variety then it is 3 blooms one to a vase.

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I just had a look at the entry form and it is four. The class just reads "Four Dahlias"

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I will sort you out some winning plants for next year.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 17/08/2010 : 08:47:02
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I wonder how Mark went on with his dahlias at the Shrewsbury Flower show, last week.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 18/08/2010 : 08:52:27
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My first show a week on Saturday, it looks like i will have very little if anything ready for it.
But i should be pleased really, because that means i am on schedule for the bigger shows later on, i should be able to have an exhibit in the Bradford Championship 2 weeks on Sat, this is the one i won last year.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 18/08/2010 : 08:56:13
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Derek, is doing his staging at the Southport show today.
I wish him all the best for tomorrow.

Lou has her show this weekend, showing her dahlias, i hope girl power prevails again at her show, good luck Lou.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 18/08/2010 : 09:02:56
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Thanks Tel...and good luck to Derek with his

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Crooked Stems

This season I have tried to be a little ahead of myself if thats possible growing these things /

In consequence quite a few of my dahlias have crooked stems !! I have heard this is sometimes caused by disbudding the wing buds too early.

Can tell or any of our resident experts shed any light on this ? the crooked stems are straight but are offset below the 1st pair of leaves where you take the wingbuds off.


Mark

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Hi Mark
I think also could be disbudding too soon and nicking the central stem. I usually disbud when say 1/2 to 1 in ch long depends on type. If anyone is a bit clumsy handed then I suggest using a manicure scissors and cutting them off thus avoiuding the central bud.
TC Paul

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[Tel]

Think you are more likely to "nick" the main stem using scissors....finger and thumb is a much safer way...plus of course disbudding when the stems are turgid....early in the day....

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6890 Posts Posted - 18/08/2010 : 20:57:11
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Im all fingers and thumbs anyway.

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Im all fingers and thumbs anyway.

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Way to go, tel.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 19/08/2010 : 08:45:00
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Its fingers and thumbs every couple of days now the buds are coming fast.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 19/08/2010 : 14:08:34
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Leeds Paxton is the most competitive show i attend besides Harrogate
Last year there were 5 Harrogate winners in the dahlia exhibitors.

For those that have not seen the pics from Paxton, this is the dahlias exhibited last year.



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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 19/08/2010 : 19:45:12
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How are your dahlias doing Lou, have you had any rain to mark them?
If they are looking ok will they be ready for cutting tomorrow and have you decided what you are going to show.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 19/08/2010 : 20:08:35
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How are your dahlias doing Lou, have you had any rain to mark them?
If they are looking ok will they be ready for cutting tomorrow and have you decided what you are going to show.

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Whoops just seen you have already cut some.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 19/08/2010 : 20:43:15
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will pm you...

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sweetpea
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8797 Posts Posted - 19/08/2010 : 20:50:55
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Looks like a well subscribed show tel. Some experienced exhibitors there from the looks of the benches.
its always good to be in a show where there is good competition. No real pleasure in winning against relative novices.
I think my biggest thrill re shows was when I actually beat the show secretary who was the local top daffodil man as well as being a dahlia, fuchsia and daff judge. he was a good friend and his response was to start growing sweetpeas just to knock me back a peg or two. He never managed it though.
I think he is now mainly concerned with dahlias & chrysanths. I should really try to get back in touch with him as we lost touch when I moved.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 19/08/2010 : 21:03:23
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It is so easy to lose touch with old friends sweetpea, sometimes you never find them again though.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 19/08/2010 : 21:15:09
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Looks like a well subscribed show tel. Some experienced exhibitors there from the looks of the benches.
its always good to be in a show where there is good competition. No real pleasure in winning against relative novices.
I think my biggest thrill re shows was when I actually beat the show secretary who was the local top daffodil man as well as being a dahlia, fuchsia and daff judge. he was a good friend and his response was to start growing sweetpeas just to knock me back a peg or two. He never managed it though.
I think he is now mainly concerned with dahlias & chrysanths. I should really try to get back in touch with him as we lost touch when I moved.

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Us novices have to start somewhere

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 20/08/2010 : 07:23:45
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Looks like a well subscribed show tel. Some experienced exhibitors there from the looks of the benches.
its always good to be in a show where there is good competition. No real pleasure in winning against relative novices.
I think my biggest thrill re shows was when I actually beat the show secretary who was the local top daffodil man as well as being a dahlia, fuchsia and daff judge. he was a good friend and his response was to start growing sweetpeas just to knock me back a peg or two. He never managed it though.
I think he is now mainly concerned with dahlias & chrysanths. I should really try to get back in touch with him as we lost touch when I moved.

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Us novices have to start somewhere

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I remember the help i received from a good dahlia grower in my first season, he did all the local shows and told me where all the shows were and encouraged me to show in them.
I received a few cards over the season, but the following year, i put an entry in the Bradford Championship against him, i was just lucky i had enough vases that were spot on for the day, i won the Championship and he was runner up. but that was because of all the help he had given me the previous season.

Now it is my turn to help anybody who wants to show dahlias, there is not as many these days though.

I can remember one young man, who turned up at a show, with 3 small decorative, they were OK but not has good as mine, he put them in, then left i had taken 4 small decs, but one had marked from cutting the night before, my other 3 were in a vase but i had not put them on the bench, there were no other entries in that class besides him and myself, so i removed one of my blooms and replaced it with the one with the marks on the back.
and put the vase on the show bench.

Needless to say he won that class, so in away i encouraged him to come again the following year.
He is not a novice anymore.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 20/08/2010 : 08:42:38
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That was a very generous thing to do Tel

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Think you are more likely to "nick" the main stem using scissors....finger and thumb is a much safer way...plus of course disbudding when the stems are turgid....early in the day....

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Not so, using manicure scissors works, however again if you are clumsy you will nick the stem just gotta be careful. Its a tried and trusted method for me and there is no need to disbud at certain times of day ie when turgid! Cutting stems yes!

Paul

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 20/08/2010 : 17:12:14
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We will look forward to hearing from Lou and Tel tomorrow evening. Good Luck.


Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 20/08/2010 : 17:27:08
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Originally posted by Loublou

Think you are more likely to "nick" the main stem using scissors....finger and thumb is a much safer way...plus of course disbudding when the stems are turgid....early in the day....

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Not so, using manicure scissors works, however again if you are clumsy you will nick the stem just gotta be careful. Its a tried and trusted method for me and there is no need to disbud at certain times of day ie when turgid! Cutting stems yes!
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As finger and thumb is for me.

It is interesting to hear the views of other growers and what works well for them; I do find that disbudding works better early in the day for me. On the occasions I have disbudded in say mid afternoon...they are sort of rubbery and leave a ragged stump.



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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 20/08/2010 : 17:31:54
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We will look forward to hearing from Lou and Tel tomorrow evening. Good Luck.

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Thank you Cherry

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4074 Posts Posted - 20/08/2010 : 18:31:43
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I was sent some photos of our local show today. There was one which shows the dahlias, it’s not good enough to show any detail but it will give you a rough idea of the competition I’ll be up against next year.



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6890 Posts Posted - 20/08/2010 : 19:45:13
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They are what i call just garden dahlias, NO CONTEST, you will walk it. if i were them i would not bother turning up next year.

The only down side to that is you practically cleared the board this year, so if you win the dahlia class has well they may bar you.


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Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 20/08/2010 : 22:00:47
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So I stand a chance with my single flowered types?

They are a funny bunch at the local show. The one time I didn’t enter anything they ignored me for a whole year, so I feel it’s my duty to enter as many classes as I can and win

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6890 Posts Posted - 20/08/2010 : 22:36:44
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So I stand a chance with my single flowered types?

They are a funny bunch at the local show. The one time I didn’t enter anything they ignored me for a whole year, so I feel it’s my duty to enter as many classes as I can and win

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You will win with the ones i send you next year.

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Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 20/08/2010 : 22:47:50
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So you are going to test my gardening skills to their limits?

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11738 Posts Posted - 21/08/2010 : 06:41:04
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You're right about 'Village life' WF, they can be "a funny lot" I'm 4 miles away and don't get involved as once you do there's no end to it. As for your Dahlias, well if you put into them what you do with everything else you can't fail.


Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 21/08/2010 : 07:47:34
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I used to worry about upsetting the village and would go out of my way not to rock the boat, but now I realise they love any excuse to get their claws into someone, I'm happy to oblige.

Tel, if you are happy to guide me I’ll give it my best shot.


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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 21/08/2010 : 07:56:08
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No problem, lets sock it to em.

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[Tel]

Good. I was put off at the start with not having heat for cuttings, and by the amount of dahlias I needed.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 21/08/2010 : 22:50:10
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Good. I was put off at the start with not having heat for cuttings, and by the amount of dahlias I needed.

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Would you fancy showing dahlias at your local show Cherry.?

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19838 Posts Posted - 23/08/2010 : 10:52:20
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Warkworth Show

4 vases x 3 blooms. Marston Lilac and Mary's Jomanda

2nd Place



Small cactus/semi cactus. Cherwell Goldcrest and Kiwi Gloria

2nd Place




Small and/or miniature decoratives. Amber Festival

2nd Place




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6890 Posts Posted - 23/08/2010 : 19:37:46
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This Saturday is my first show, you can see i have hundreds of blooms to choose from.

The Kiwi bed.


Part of another bed.

The other part of the bed.


Another of the beds.



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pennyron
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11738 Posts Posted - 23/08/2010 : 20:41:10
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Bound to get a prizewinner from that lot Tel, what do you do with all the rejects? you must have a lot of vases.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 23/08/2010 : 20:46:11
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Bound to get a prizewinner from that lot Tel, what do you do with all the rejects? you must have a lot of vases.

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I just snap their necks Ron.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 23/08/2010 : 21:38:08
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Ouch I must admit I throw a lot on the compost heap.....I do fill a vase or two as well......and I've promised several people a bunch. May as well let someone else enjoy them too

Its amazing what 4 days can do...eh Tel....

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sweetpea
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8797 Posts Posted - 23/08/2010 : 23:31:31
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I know the feeling well Tel.
Sometimes you get the feeling that you just cant win. Especially after you take what you can and then some idiot knocks them over on the staging table.

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grindle
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15010 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 04:56:59
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just a few there then Tel


Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 07:45:36
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They are what i call just garden dahlias, NO CONTEST, you will walk it. if i were them i would not bother turning up next year.
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What is the difference between a garden dahlia and a show dahlia?

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6890 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 08:14:01
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They are what i call just garden dahlias, NO CONTEST, you will walk it. if i were them i would not bother turning up next year.
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What is the difference between a garden dahlia and a show dahlia?

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It is the form of them and the number of petals.

Garden dahlia.


Show dahlia


Look how the petals lay on the show dahlia, compared to the garden dahlia.

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 08:51:35
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Good. I was put off at the start with not having heat for cuttings, and by the amount of dahlias I needed.

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Would you fancy showing dahlias at your local show Cherry.?

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The local show, which is a big one, is at the very beginning of July, which would be too early. In fact there is only one class. I am sure this area would be good for growing dahlias. There are four or five classes for sweet peas and no novice classes. My dahlias have caused much interest, so I will have to read up on the cuttings again. Like I did, my friends think the tuber just gets too big and it gets split.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 08:51:50
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I know the feeling well Tel.
Sometimes you get the feeling that you just cant win. Especially after you take what you can and then some idiot knocks them over on the staging table.

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I find staging at Harrogate the most nerve wracking the staging tables are placed down the isles where the benches are you do your best to keep your bins out of the way of other exhibitors passing because it only needs someone to brush past them especially the cactus blooms for them to get damaged.
Then after getting them into vases you may have to walk to the far end of all the benches to stage in a class and you have to try and stop the blooms in the vase bumping each other.
Who said showing is easy.

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Good. I was put off at the start with not having heat for cuttings, and by the amount of dahlias I needed.

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Would you fancy showing dahlias at your local show Cherry.?

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The local show, which is a big one, is at the very beginning of July, which would be too early. In fact there is only one class. I am sure this area would be good for growing dahlias. There are four or five classes for sweet peas and no novice classes. My dahlias have caused much interest, so I will have to read up on the cuttings again. Like I did, my friends think the tuber just gets too big and it gets split.

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That is a bit to early for dahlias, there is a couple of societies here that have what they call the early show like yours then a later show in Sept.

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Wildlife_friendly
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They are what i call just garden dahlias, NO CONTEST, you will walk it. if i were them i would not bother turning up next year.
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What is the difference between a garden dahlia and a show dahlia?

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It is the form of them and the number of petals.

Garden dahlia.


Show dahlia


Look how the petals lay on the show dahlia, compared to the garden dahlia.

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That’s a huge difference. I do like shape of those dahlias, I’m not so keen on the perfectly round, ball shaped ones like the first and third photos Lou posted. They are beautiful flowers but they are not really me. Have I just picked the hardest ones to grow?

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tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 11:01:53
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It depends on the variety some are easier and more weather proof than others.

This is one called Ruskin Respectable, i am trying this one this season, this was in the dahlia trials, looked quite weather proof to me.


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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 12:23:23
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I know what you mean about the ball/dec dahlias WF.....but if you get up really close to the blooms and see the formation and the way the petals lie....they are truly beautiful. I too love the cactus type and mine seem to stand up to the weather better than the others. I will be looking for some new cactus varieties for next year. Any suggestions Tel?

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 15:22:52
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I know what you mean about the ball/dec dahlias WF.....but if you get up really close to the blooms and see the formation and the way the petals lie....they are truly beautiful. I too love the cactus type and mine seem to stand up to the weather better than the others. I will be looking for some new cactus varieties for next year. Any suggestions Tel?

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The kiwi's are still the No 1 Lou, But if you want to add to them, i am trying a small orange cactus called Embassy, also i bought one plant of a small cactus called Oreti Bliss last year, the tuber from it gave me 20 plants this season, this one is my Avatar. will give my opinion of them later in the season, watch this space.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 16:38:24
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quote:
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Originally posted by Loublou

I know what you mean about the ball/dec dahlias WF.....but if you get up really close to the blooms and see the formation and the way the petals lie....they are truly beautiful. I too love the cactus type and mine seem to stand up to the weather better than the others. I will be looking for some new cactus varieties for next year. Any suggestions Tel?

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The kiwi's are still the No 1 Lou, But if you want to add to them, i am trying a small orange cactus called Embassy, also i bought one plant of a small cactus called Oreti Bliss last year, the tuber from it gave me 20 plants this season, this one is my Avatar. will give my opinion of them later in the season, watch this space.

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Yes Boss

I will make a note of the orange one....I'm rather partial to orange ones..

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Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 17:32:36
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Don’t get me wrong Lou, I think they are amazing flowers but they are perhaps too perfect for me, the cactus varieties with their spiky petals looks like a dahlia that’s rebelling somewhat.

I have been giving the growing of show dahlias some thought, it is something I’d like to try. The ‘where’ is giving me a problem, I’m no good with pots, even with the best will in the world, I know I’d fail with them. They can’t go in my flower beds because of the slugs and snails. I do have a small bed which is roughly six foot square, will this be large enough to produce me four flowers for our show?

I can put posts in the four corners and net the whole bed so I can use slug pellets.

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I think they are amazing flowers but they are perhaps too perfect for me, the cactus varieties with their spiky petals looks like a dahlia that’s rebelling somewhat.

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That is a lovely way to look at dahlias and it gives them character and charm or no charm.


pennyron
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11738 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 18:26:30
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A splendid idea WF and a good time to stat organizing it all. As for Dahlias, I haven't room so don't have a lot of interest but, If I did have the room I'd grow those lovely globular Chrysanths....sorry Dahlia folk


pennyron
Tree

11738 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 18:31:11
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Just a thought WF, during the summer Pen's dad bought net that you make curtains from to cover his greens. It was so cheap he bought me some too. It covers a wide area will last and he said it was cheap from Wilkinson's.


Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 24/08/2010 : 21:02:55
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I bought a roll of fruit-cage netting from our recycling centre a while ago, I was going to use that to make a permanent cage. That netting does sound good for my cabbages and sprouts, the butterflies still got through the netting I put around them this year.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 25/08/2010 : 06:46:19
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Don’t get me wrong Lou, I think they are amazing flowers but they are perhaps too perfect for me, the cactus varieties with their spiky petals looks like a dahlia that’s rebelling somewhat.

I have been giving the growing of show dahlias some thought, it is something I’d like to try. The ‘where’ is giving me a problem, I’m no good with pots, even with the best will in the world, I know I’d fail with them. They can’t go in my flower beds because of the slugs and snails. I do have a small bed which is roughly six foot square, will this be large enough to produce me four flowers for our show?

I can put posts in the four corners and net the whole bed so I can use slug pellets.

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My four beds are roughly 6 x 6 too, and I have 12 plants in each. You might just get 4 blooms...it depends a lot on the weather......if you can manage another space as well it would be easier. See what Tel thinks

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[Tel]

I only have two Dahlias but still have difficulty distinguishing the buds that are about to flower from those finished. I know the shape is different but sometimes there's not much difference between them.


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4074 Posts Posted - 25/08/2010 : 08:46:38
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I have that problem too, my deadheading sounds like snip, snip, snip, oh darn, snip, snip, oops, snip, snip, snip, oh well there’s plenty more to come!

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 25/08/2010 : 09:07:56
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Don’t get me wrong Lou, I think they are amazing flowers but they are perhaps too perfect for me, the cactus varieties with their spiky petals looks like a dahlia that’s rebelling somewhat.

I have been giving the growing of show dahlias some thought, it is something I’d like to try. The ‘where’ is giving me a problem, I’m no good with pots, even with the best will in the world, I know I’d fail with them. They can’t go in my flower beds because of the slugs and snails. I do have a small bed which is roughly six foot square, will this be large enough to produce me four flowers for our show?

I can put posts in the four corners and net the whole bed so I can use slug pellets.

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Seeing it is one show, with 4 flowers required, even in your small bed we should achieve it, i know you are not keen on the decoratives, so we will have to make it cactus blooms.


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11991 Posts Posted - 25/08/2010 : 09:49:35
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I only have two Dahlias but still have difficulty distinguishing the buds that are about to flower from those finished. I know the shape is different but sometimes there's not much difference between them.

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I remember Carol Klein saying that if you gently squeeze a dahlia flower bud and liquid oozes out of it then the flower is over, if it's dry the bud hasn't yet flowered.

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 25/08/2010 : 11:19:55
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It will be good to see an amateur's point of view and questions with the expert teaching.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 25/08/2010 : 19:36:57
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It will be good to see an amateur's point of view and questions with the expert teaching.

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I think Mark and Paul have disappeared, so you will have to do the teaching Cherry.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 25/08/2010 : 20:11:14
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Rycroft Grace, small cactus, this is in the dahlia trials was £3 a plant at Rycrofts this season.
I like it especially after the wind and rain yesterday not a mark on it. this is not my pic of it, will take a pic of it and others next time i go.


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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 25/08/2010 : 21:34:16
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I do like this one Tel.....another for my list

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 26/08/2010 : 09:16:08
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My first show at Wrose on Sat, will have a look to see if there is anything worth taking, they may have to be mixed vases, not a lot out for this weekend.
If this were one of the bigger shows, i would not be showing this weekend, but this is a small local show that i have supported for the last 16 years.
I just hope at least two other Exhibitors that i know turn up, because if i have anything at all they will be just to help fill the bench on this occasion.
Will know more this afternoon.

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 26/08/2010 : 09:30:28
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It will be good to see an amateur's point of view and questions with the expert teaching.

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I think Mark and Paul have disappeared, so you will have to do the teaching Cherry.

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Ha ha! Clever though you all are, it is a lot to take in from the amateur's point of view.

Interesting that the date of the local show co-incides with sweet peas, because the man who started it is a sweet pea grower. He is the man who was too busy to help me set up. A lovely man who had come from well up in Lincolnshire, but was from Yorkshire, gave me a help. That was two or three seasons ago.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 26/08/2010 : 19:19:46
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If the weather is kind for the next 24 hours, i may have vase of small decoratives, a vase of miniature decoratives, maybe a mixed vase of miniature ball and a mixed vase of small cactus.

Will be taking 6 french beans, 6 runner beans and maybe a cauliflower not checked that since it was tennis ball size last weekend.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 26/08/2010 : 19:23:56
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3 weeks today, hopefully i will have finished my staging at Harrogate and be on my way home.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 26/08/2010 : 19:28:14
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The OH has told me she is making some plum jam in the morning, so a ideal opportunity to bring forward my trip to the dahlia trials.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 26/08/2010 : 20:22:38
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I only have two Dahlias but still have difficulty distinguishing the buds that are about to flower from those finished. I know the shape is different but sometimes there's not much difference between them.

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I find that more with dahlias that have one layer of petals like the Bishops.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 26/08/2010 : 20:34:53
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Originally posted by tel7772

The OH has told me she is making some plum jam in the morning, so a ideal opportunity to bring forward my trip to the dahlia trials.

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What!!!!....don't you want to lick the spoon

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 26/08/2010 : 20:36:22
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Originally posted by tel7772

If the weather is kind for the next 24 hours, i may have vase of small decoratives, a vase of miniature decoratives, maybe a mixed vase of miniature ball and a mixed vase of small cactus.

Will be taking 6 french beans, 6 runner beans and maybe a cauliflower not checked that since it was tennis ball size last weekend.

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Not a bad haul for so early in the season..

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 27/08/2010 : 19:38:09
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Just got back from the allotment with the few blooms i have.
Will stage a vase of Rossendale Peach, small dec.
a vase of Oreti Bliss small cactus.
a vase of mixed small decs
a vase of 5 moorplace poms.
Cut 6 Marston lilac will decide tomorrow what are the best 3

Best chance of a 1st will be Marston Lilac.

All the others are at slightly different stages of development.
They are all in the back of the car, along with french beans, runner beans and a cauliflower.


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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 27/08/2010 : 20:27:12
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Originally posted by tel7772

Just got back from the allotment with the few blooms i have.
Will stage a vase of Rossendale Peach, small dec.
a vase of Oreti Bliss small cactus.
a vase of mixed small decs
a vase of 5 moorplace poms.
Cut 6 Marston lilac will decide tomorrow what are the best 3

Best chance of a 1st will be Marston Lilac.

All the others are at slightly different stages of development.
They are all in the back of the car, along with french beans, runner beans and a cauliflower.


One of my favourite, as you know...Good luck with your exhibits....


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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 27/08/2010 : 20:29:00
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All the best Tel.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 04:05:07
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Thanks for the good luck messages, not expecting too much from this show or the next.
This will be the first time i have tried to time the main flush of blooms for around Harrogate time, should have a lot more out for the Harden Beck show on the 12th Sept and the rest of my show season.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 06:48:43
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Dahlias in the Trials at Leeds. some of the colours are not that good the sun was too bright.

1. Ryecroft Grace, small cactus


2. Party Princess, collerette


3. Blyton Burgundy, miniature decorative


4. Rossendale Flame, medium decorative


5. Leslies Willo, pom pon



6. Nulands Josephine, large pom pon



7. Bantling, large pom pon



8. Blyton Stella, miniature ball



9. Scaur Topper, miniature ball


10. Scaur Appeal, miniature ball



11. Blyton Romanee, small ball



12. Stevans Dude, small ball



13. Judith House, miniature decorative



14. Gracia Dean. miniature decorative



15. Loddon Chet, small decorative



16. Blyton Salmon, small decorative



17. Kilburn Rose, waterlily



18. Blue Wish, waterlily, the pic has not done the colour justice



19. Edwins Sunset, waterlily



20. Olivia Mari, waterlily



21. Carstone firefox, collerette



22. Blyton Dove, miniature decorative



23. Scaur Whisper, miniature decorative



24. Hillcrest Jonathon, small decorative



25. Annette Riger, small decorative



26. Gillwood Terry G. small semi cactus


27. Carol Ann, miniature cactus



28. Trooper Dan, large semicactus


29. Bobs Flossy, large semicactus



30. Hillcrest Jake, medium semicactus



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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 08:02:16
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Mmmmm....some lovely stuff there Tel.....That blue waterlily looks special, and Carstone Firefox amongst others
I've a fancy to try some poms next year. The Halls catalogue arrived yesterday Hope to be paying their dahlia fields a visit before too long

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 09:11:57
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Super photos Tel. That is the connoisseur's collection, so a catalogue would not be needed.


peony
Mrs


678 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 15:01:59
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Wonderful photos Tel. A marvellous range of colours and shapes and all so perfect. Blue Wish is a lovely colour.


tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 20:05:41
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Wrose Show today, i entered 4 classes. In the medium or small Cacti class' i entered 1 vase of small cactus, Oreti Bliss small cactus,
i came 2nd with this exhibit to a vase of Ruskin Respectable.

Ruskin Respectable is on the left, mine are on the right.

Ruskin Respectable was a very nice vase, i hope mine will be has good when they flower.


The next class was for Medium or Small Decoratives, i entered a vase of mixed small decoratives, these came 3rd i also entered a vase of Rossendale Peach small decorative, these came 1st and won me the Bronze Medal.
This is the mixed vase of small decs.

This is the vase of Rossendale Peach, that won the Bronze Medal.


The next Class was for 5 pom pons there were only 2 entries in this.
I received a 1st for this vase, i did not think they were very good.
Mine are in the left hand vase.


The other Class i entered was for Miniature Decoratives, i had 2 entries in this, two vases of the same variety, Marston Lilac.
This vase came 2nd


This vase came 1st and won me the Silver Medal.


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[Tel]

Congratulations on your wins Tel. It appears you had a great day.


tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 20:51:40
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Thanks Cherry, better than i expected to say i was limited for choice of blooms.

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longs
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436 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 21:06:30
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Congrats. Tel; Now go for Harrogate

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 21:06:43
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Well you had a lot of wins Tel. I did think of you and I was wishing you well. Are you going to show at the place where there was a brass band last year? It looked a great atmosphere by your pics.


Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 21:14:53
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Ah....lovely Tel.......Well done....

That vase of Marston Lilac......a beauty
Rossendale Peach is going on my list of "I want"..

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Janbrad
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1326 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 21:40:59
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Congratulations Tel


pennyron
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11738 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 22:04:36
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Good for you Tel, they were all winner for me. I'd like to say which was my favourite but I couldn't lol. "Onwards and upwards"


derekbrooks
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2530 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 22:05:17
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I am going to show you 2 pictures of my dahlia bed taken yesterday before I cut my flowers for my local show .


derekbrooks
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derekbrooks
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2530 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 22:18:33
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derekbrooks
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2530 Posts Posted - 28/08/2010 : 22:24:51
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The white ones at the front are the Kenora Challenger that Tel sent me.The other whites you can see are Cream Moonlight and Alf,s Mascot.The pink ones on the second picture are Elma E.
I,ll tell you how I went on ,on Derek,s diary


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 29/08/2010 : 07:05:49
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Originally posted by Cherry

Well you had a lot of wins Tel. I did think of you and I was wishing you well. Are you going to show at the place where there was a brass band last year? It looked a great atmosphere by your pics.
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Yes all been well Cherry, i will be doing Harden Beck on the 12th Sept, that is the show held in the large polytunnel with the Wilsden brass band playing, then Harrogate on the 16th, then on the 19th Sept i will be up at Wilsden show, with the Band playing outside their community centre.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 29/08/2010 : 07:17:01
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Congrats. Tel; Now go for Harrogate

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I am doing all that i can to get to Harrogate longs, i just hope him upstairs keeps the air circulating round the dahlias in the couple of days before the show.
The last thing i need is still damp nights to damp off the blooms.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 29/08/2010 : 16:10:13
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Ah....lovely Tel.......Well done....

That vase of Marston Lilac......a beauty
Rossendale Peach is going on my list of "I want"..

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Yes unless like you, who has seen it, you would not believe the colour of it, the camera just cannot catch the true colour.
I think this one will be on the show benches for a few years to come yet and deservedly so.


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Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 29/08/2010 : 16:16:47
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Well done Tel, with flowers like those these will be the first of many winnings this year.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 29/08/2010 : 20:14:13
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Originally posted by tel7772


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Originally posted by Loublou

Ah....lovely Tel.......Well done....

That vase of Marston Lilac......a beauty
Rossendale Peach is going on my list of "I want"..

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Yes unless like you, who has seen it, you would not believe the colour of it, the camera just cannot catch the true colour.
I think this one will be on the show benches for a few years to come yet and deservedly so.


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You are so right Tel......its a gorgeous purple....the camera makes it muddy.....and the real colour is ....breathtaking.....you know what I mean

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 29/08/2010 : 20:27:51
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For future reference.....I seem to have done better with the Kiwis this year Tel..........what do I look out for as regards "centres" of the blooms?



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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 30/08/2010 : 06:50:59
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Hi Lou, the centre of the bloom needs to be closed, that bloom needs another couple of days. For reference and to show how the big the centre of the bloom should be in realation to the rest of the bloom
Take a look at Ruskin Grace the first pic i posted from the dahlia trials, the centre should be no bigger than that.

I have one kiwi that was not ready on Sat it had a centre like yours,
When i go down today i will have a look at it, if it is in my opinion now ready for a show i will take a pic and post it so you can compare like with like.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 30/08/2010 : 08:02:59
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Dereks dahlia winning exhibits at Worsley Show.

Kenora Challenger


Elma E


Willows Violet


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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 30/08/2010 : 08:34:57
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Originally posted by tel7772

Hi Lou, the centre of the bloom needs to be closed, that bloom needs another couple of days. For reference and to show how the big the centre of the bloom should be in realation to the rest of the bloom
Take a look at Ruskin Grace the first pic i posted from the dahlia trials, the centre should be no bigger than that.

I have one kiwi that was not ready on Sat it had a centre like yours,
When i go down today i will have a look at it, if it is in my opinion now ready for a show i will take a pic and post it so you can compare like with like.

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Thats great Tel...just what I wanted to know....how big the central area should be as a whole, in relation to the centre being closed. I look forward to your pic.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 30/08/2010 : 11:02:56
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My bloom is still not ready Lou, but i will keep an eye on it.

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Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 30/08/2010 : 17:24:17
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OK Tel

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tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 30/08/2010 : 20:05:57
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The dahlia beds today, with 17 days to Harrogate.
Each pic is a different variety of dahlia.







Should have put this pic in the topic Mistakes we have made,
The White Dahlia should be the same as the dahlia in front of the pic,
Wrong labeling by me.








This is a row of Ruskin Respectable, new to me this year not one flower yet.






The Kiwi bed


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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 30/08/2010 : 20:22:48
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You must have nerves of steel Tel. This is a particularly testing time and you must draw on your years of experience at this point.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 30/08/2010 : 20:46:13
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I am quite happy with them at this stage Cherry.

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[Tel]

This is all beginning to sound very complicated, I’m not sure if I have bitten off more than I can chew.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 01/09/2010 : 20:11:03
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This is all beginning to sound very complicated, I’m not sure if I have bitten off more than I can chew.

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You do not have to worry about this WF the ones you need for your show will be straight forward to grow.

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Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 01/09/2010 : 20:29:14
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That’s good to know, I can do straight forward.

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longs
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That’s good to know, I can do straight forward.

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Do you also do 'reverse' and 'side-step'

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longs
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436 Posts Posted - 01/09/2010 : 21:38:13
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Forgot the camera used the mobile. One thing i have noticed the stems bend before they stiffen up, would need to be caned at bud stage, now that puts me off it.


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Looking a bit more 'Deccy' now and to be honest does it have enough petal depth? I'm assuming it's a miniature. I still like the colour and that would help in a multi-variety class. Now the big question - How does it compare with the best of the same class? if it's seriously lacking against them then you know the answer. Having said that, try it again next season but grow a good few plants and look again. In any case why not keep it and grow it for your own satisfaction even if you don't feel it's up to scratch for the 'big time'
From experience 'binning' a seedling is the most difficult thing to do. Why not try it out on the bench next year? A seedling class maybe? Different years, different seasons, different results.
Of all the thousands of seedlings I've grown over many years I only had two that made the grade - show stoppers are hard to come by.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 02/09/2010 : 06:48:29
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772

Forgot the camera used the mobile. One thing i have noticed the stems bend before they stiffen up, would need to be caned at bud stage, now that puts me off it.


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Looking a bit more 'Deccy' now and to be honest does it have enough petal depth? I'm assuming it's a miniature. I still like the colour and that would help in a multi-variety class. Now the big question - How does it compare with the best of the same class? if it's seriously lacking against them then you know the answer. Having said that, try it again next season but grow a good few plants and look again. In any case why not keep it and grow it for your own satisfaction even if you don't feel it's up to scratch for the 'big time'
From experience 'binning' a seedling is the most difficult thing to do. Why not try it out on the bench next year? A seedling class maybe? Different years, different seasons, different results.
Of all the thousands of seedlings I've grown over many years I only had two that made the grade - show stoppers are hard to come by.

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I will grow a few more of it next year, has you suggested then if i get a vase i will take it to the Paxton show and enter it in the Min Dec class, it is the only show i do besides Harrogate that i know there will be at least 3 dahlia judges there.
Then it may become one to keep for my own satisfaction has a garden dahlia.

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tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 02/09/2010 : 19:31:35
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The centre of a small Dec.



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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 02/09/2010 : 20:41:21
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This Small ball Stevans Dude,in the Leeds trials, i thought to myself i wonder what Cherry would think of this, it was bred in Australia.



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tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 03/09/2010 : 07:33:34
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Will have to see if i can get enough blooms for 3 vases this afternoon, to defend the Bradford Championship tomorrow.
I know there is no Kiwi's ready.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 03/09/2010 : 08:13:45
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Good luck with that Tel..

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 03/09/2010 : 09:59:48
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This is all beginning to sound very complicated, I’m not sure if I have bitten off more than I can chew.

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This all makes me pleased I grew Sweet Peas. However, I just love my dahlias to bits.


tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 03/09/2010 : 19:21:54
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It looks like one vase of Rossendale Peach, then i will have to sort out a vase of Marston Lilac and a vase of Brenda T for the 3 vase Championship tomorrow when i get there. The 3 Marstons in the back bucket are the more likely ones for a vase.


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[Tel]

Looks like they will have to be a Dahlia 2010 season part 2 the 1000 mark is fast approaching.
I wonder if Steve would make part 2 a sticky for us.

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Cherry
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This has been a very successful topic Tel. You start the new one when you wish and, of course, one of us will make it a sticky for you.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 08/09/2010 : 10:24:10
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This Giant Decorative, Kenora Valentine, made a come back at the National Shows in 2009 it is now 20 years old.


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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 08/09/2010 : 10:27:43
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What a gorgeous colour. It obviously has not been improved on that it is still showing.


Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 08/09/2010 : 17:09:49
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That certainly is a beauty Tel. That one of mine really pales into insignificance against this

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13929 Posts Posted - 08/09/2010 : 18:26:17
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Don't be too hard on Cafe au Lait Lou. You must give it a chance and it is good to be different.


tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 08/09/2010 : 20:02:58
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Kenora Challenger, how i would love 3 like this one for one of the shows.


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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 08/09/2010 : 20:08:00
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Just remind me about the Challenger Lou after Xmas, i will take extra cuttings and send you some plants.
But these definitely need cover.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 08/09/2010 : 20:10:31
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Thats kind of you Tel....Thank you I have Brian on the case...regarding covers

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.


tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 08/09/2010 : 20:15:45
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quote:
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Originally posted by Loublou

Thats kind of you Tel....Thank you I have Brian on the case...regarding covers

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No problem Lou, by the way you only grow this 4 up and disbud everything on each stem all the way down.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 08/09/2010 : 21:07:57
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I have made a note in my book...I've just been looking through a few sites for anything that catches my eye. I see that Citizen got a good result in the Leeds trials. I got a few young plants of this dahlia and lost 2 - don't know why. The remaining plant has been eaten back to the bare stem..do you think the tuber in the 4" pot will be ok...?

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.


tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 09/09/2010 : 06:54:46
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quote:
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Originally posted by Loublou

I have made a note in my book...I've just been looking through a few sites for anything that catches my eye. I see that Citizen got a good result in the Leeds trials. I got a few young plants of this dahlia and lost 2 - don't know why. The remaining plant has been eaten back to the bare stem..do you think the tuber in the 4" pot will be ok...?

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Citizen may have formed a small tuber now, it may be ok, there is a chance if you cut them stem back now, you may get new growth from the tuber.
I took cuttings from my terracotta seedling last Sept, and kept them in 3in pots all winter on the kitchen window sill, they did grow straggly, but i managed to get 12 cuttings from the 2 plants, the following Spring.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Wildlife_friendly
Mrs

4074 Posts Posted - 09/09/2010 : 07:09:23
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I’ll just nip this one in before a new thread is started. I received it a few days ago but with all the shows and winnings it didn’t seem appropriate to post.

A few weeks ago I wrote to Taylors bulbs asking them why my Dahlia Windmill was so different from their illustration. I was beginning to think they had completely ignored my letter. Three days ago I received a letter from them, they said “We buy these from our suppliers on the understanding that they are true to type and of good sound quality. We shall be taking your comments up with them”

It’s good to know they do take notice of their customers and will be looking in to it. I also received £10 HTA voucher with their compliments.

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Encouraging wildlife in Devon.


Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 09/09/2010 : 07:25:55
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Its good you had a reply from them WF.....and even nicer to get the voucher

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.


Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 09/09/2010 : 07:27:17
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772


quote:
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Originally posted by Loublou

I have made a note in my book...I've just been looking through a few sites for anything that catches my eye. I see that Citizen got a good result in the Leeds trials. I got a few young plants of this dahlia and lost 2 - don't know why. The remaining plant has been eaten back to the bare stem..do you think the tuber in the 4" pot will be ok...?

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Citizen may have formed a small tuber now, it may be ok, there is a chance if you cut them stem back now, you may get new growth from the tuber.
I took cuttings from my terracotta seedling last Sept, and kept them in 3in pots all winter on the kitchen window sill, they did grow straggly, but i managed to get 12 cuttings from the 2 plants, the following Spring.

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I'll give that a try....thanks Tel



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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.


derekbrooks
Tree


2530 Posts Posted - 09/09/2010 : 21:57:42
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I used to grow Kenora Valentine but it never did very well.I think it was prone to virus and I eventually threw it out.In contrast my Kenora Challenger are doing very well .I have shown it the last 2 weekends and will be shoeing it again this Saturday


tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 07:57:44
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quote:
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Originally posted by derekbrooks

I used to grow Kenora Valentine but it never did very well.I think it was prone to virus and I eventually threw it out.In contrast my Kenora Challenger are doing very well .I have shown it the last 2 weekends and will be shoeing it again this Saturday

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Good luck with your show tomorrow Derek, hope your dahlias have not damped off, it has been wet here over night i have my fingers crossed, that i will still have some that have not marked in this weather, but i would rather miss this show than Harrogate.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 07:59:07
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Lou, received your Email, will have a think and reply later.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 09:07:31
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Thanks Tel

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.


tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 12:44:33
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I will start on part two now.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.



Rosie8032
Moderator

11991 Posts Posted - 17/09/2010 : 09:00:40
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I shall lock this one for you Tel.

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Back to Aberdeenshire Rosie


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