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Post by markb on Feb 27, 2013 17:04:56 GMT
I ordered 7 more dahlia varieties today. 3, Barbarry Balloon 3, Blyton Softer Gleam 3, Barbarry Parade 3, Barbarry Sunbeam 3, Blyton Romance 3, Marston George 3, Westerton Folly. Harrogate this year, the only entry i intend to make at the moment is Birkenshaw Pudsey in the seedling class. I have decided not to replace my covers for the dahlia's. So i am going to spend more time on the breeding side of things, the weather would have to be brilliant to show anything else. Probably have one of those barbecue summers they keep promising us now then Tel!!
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Post by marynz on Feb 27, 2013 18:49:46 GMT
Yes - good luck with the breeding. We like seedling photos!
As to the summer weather, you can have ours. All we want is rain!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 12:44:17 GMT
Dahlia Propagation now in full swing: Plenty of cutting material coming along nicely: Cuttings taken today: Early Cuttings taken 7 days ago, some will be stock plants others that tend to flower early will be for pot tubers: Last year I started using jiffy 7 peat plug cells as opposed to a peat mix. Must say I very rarely lose a cutting and they root up much quicker. It also doesn't matter if you over water them unlike tray filled compost. No damping off, no mildew. I also use root gel instead of powder as its shelf like is a little longer plus the cutting absorbs it much quicker. I like to put the peat plug cutting in a 40 cell tray just to make life easy when adding a label and moving them about. Each one is labelled, too many years with mixed up varieties, so this is ny number one rule for me.
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Post by Moonlight on Mar 4, 2013 12:54:49 GMT
No damping off, no mildew. I also use root gel instead of powder as its shelf like is a little longer plus the cutting absorbs it much quicker. I like to put the peat plug cutting in a 40 cell tray just to make life easy when adding a label and moving them about. Each one is labelled, too many years with mixed up varieties, so this is ny number one rule for me. They look like an army of soldiers lined up ready to go.
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Post by Lou78W on Mar 4, 2013 16:03:51 GMT
A grand sight Mark ;D
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Post by snute2008 on Mar 4, 2013 17:19:28 GMT
I ordered 7 more dahlia varieties today. 3, Barbarry Balloon 3, Blyton Softer Gleam 3, Barbarry Parade 3, Barbarry Sunbeam 3, Blyton Romance 3, Marston George 3, Westerton Folly. Harrogate this year, the only entry i intend to make at the moment is Birkenshaw Pudsey in the seedling class. I have decided not to replace my covers for the dahlia's. So i am going to spend more time on the breeding side of things, the weather would have to be brilliant to show anything else. Probably have one of those barbecue summers they keep promising us now then Tel!! Hi, I am after the Barbarry's would you mind letting me know the supplier you are using please. Many thanks. I am looking for a replacement for Barbarry Pip as it is so difficult to get it to make a decent tuber (even a pot one). Thanks.
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Post by snute2008 on Mar 4, 2013 17:42:07 GMT
woodforddahlias6, your photos are great. do you mind me asking a couple of questions.
Are you using a heat mat? I bought one recently £184 for a 60cm by 2m one. Took it out of the box and it didnt work. So thats gone back today. I wonder if its better to build a soil cable bench.
Also, I am interested in the jiffy 7 method that you use. They are not cheap to buy though. Do you cut the netting away once rooted? I bought some cuttings last year and never cut the netting and they never made any tubers. I would be interested in your advice.
Many thanks.
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Post by AJ on Mar 4, 2013 20:38:15 GMT
looks like a fab setup. had a little bit of green showing myself today from tubers planted last week
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 0:37:38 GMT
Thanks Lou
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 0:46:07 GMT
Probably have one of those barbecue summers they keep promising us now then Tel!! Hi, I am after the Barbarry's would you mind letting me know the supplier you are using please. Many thanks. I am looking for a replacement for Barbarry Pip as it is so difficult to get it to make a decent tuber (even a pot one). Thanks. I get my tuber stock direct from the grower - Barry Davies. I think it is a little late to purchase tubers from him now as I would think he has sold out. I dont know if he sells plants ? If you want his email address I will PM it to you. I wont post it on this forum thread as sometimes this is not wise. This year I am growing: Barbarry Surprise - Min Dec Barbarry Salsa - Min Ball Barbarry Sublime - Min Ball Barbarry Berry - Min Ball Barbarry Haze - Min Dec. If you are looking for an alternative to Pip then I suggest Barbarry Haze. Not properly released yet but it will do well on the show bench and produces plenty of cuttings off well formed tubers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 1:06:24 GMT
woodforddahlias6, your photos are great. do you mind me asking a couple of questions. Are you using a heat mat? I bought one recently £184 for a 60cm by 2m one. Took it out of the box and it didnt work. So thats gone back today. I wonder if its better to build a soil cable bench. Also, I am interested in the jiffy 7 method that you use. They are not cheap to buy though. Do you cut the netting away once rooted? I bought some cuttings last year and never cut the netting and they never made any tubers. I would be interested in your advice. Many thanks. I use garland 6cm trays - 1100mm x 550mm as my soil cable beds. The heat cables are taped to the bottom of the trays using cross weave with 2 inches of damp sharp sand on top. I then put a single layer of plastic on top to stop the sand from drying out. These trays act as my heat beds with heat cable spaced at every 10cm, I think about 50m or so in total. I have 6 of these trays, 3 in a run on each side of the greenhouse, each run has a thermostat set to 25 degrees which should give you an operating temp of about 18 degrees at soil level. Any more and you risk damping off and tubers drying out too quickley. My tubers are housed in garland jumbo trays which are 150mm deep x 1000mm long x 550mm wide. Yes these are large trays but I can fit aboutv 30 tubers in each tray and due to their size the tubers have plenty of root space and the compost doesn't dry out as quick as shallow seed trays. Again I have 6 of these large trays which you can get for about £10 each if you shop around. The jiffy plugs are a bit pricey getting them from your local garden centre. I buy mine off ebay for about £30 for 500 incl postage, which is not so bad. I use Jiffy 7's / 33mm. Yes I do remove the plug netting, its supposed to be biodegradable but I find it can restrict the root developement on some varieties. Its important to be careful not to damage the roots if they have grown through the mesh, if the roots are too far along I would leave it be.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 1:11:16 GMT
looks like a fab setup. had a little bit of green showing myself today from tubers planted last week It wasn't always like that, I dont drink that much and the wife isn't high maintenance, so I'm alowed to spend a few quid on my greenhouse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 1:30:39 GMT
woodforddahlias6, your photos are great. do you mind me asking a couple of questions. Are you using a heat mat? I bought one recently £184 for a 60cm by 2m one. Took it out of the box and it didnt work. So thats gone back today. I wonder if its better to build a soil cable bench. Also, I am interested in the jiffy 7 method that you use. They are not cheap to buy though. Do you cut the netting away once rooted? I bought some cuttings last year and never cut the netting and they never made any tubers. I would be interested in your advice. Many thanks. I use garland 6cm trays - 1100mm x 550mm as my soil cable beds. The heat cables are taped to the bottom of the trays using cross weave with 2 inches of damp sharp sand on top. I then put a single layer of plastic on top to stop the sand from drying out. These trays act as my heat beds with heat cable spaced at every 10cm, I think about 50m or so in total. I have 6 of these trays, 3 in a run on each side of the greenhouse, each run has a thermostat set to 25 degrees which should give you an operating temp of about 18 degrees at soil level. Any more and you risk damping off and tubers drying out too quickley. My tubers are housed in garland jumbo trays which are 150mm deep x 1000mm long x 550mm wide. Yes these are large trays but I can fit aboutv 30 tubers in each tray and due to their size the tubers have plenty of root space and the compost doesn't dry out as quick as shallow seed trays. Again I have 6 of these large trays which you can get for about £10 each if you shop around. The jiffy plugs are a bit pricey getting them from your local garden centre. I buy mine off ebay for about £30 for 500 incl postage, which is not so bad. I use Jiffy 7's / 33mm. Yes I do remove the plug netting, its supposed to be biodegradable but I find it can restrict the root developement on some varieties. Its important to be careful not to damage the roots if they have grown through the mesh, if the roots are too far along I would leave it be. I forgot to add that my cuttings when on the heat bench have a vented perspex cover on for the first 7-10 days to add some humidity, then it is removed. If its very hot during the day, then I suggest leaving off. The cuttings will normally wilt over after taken for a few days then like magic they will perk right up when the root stump starts to take up weter. You can mist them 1-2 times a day until they get established. It wont take long.
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Post by marynz on Mar 5, 2013 5:43:47 GMT
Very impressive!
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Post by AJ on Mar 5, 2013 21:49:54 GMT
looks like a fab setup. had a little bit of green showing myself today from tubers planted last week It wasn't always like that, I dont drink that much and the wife isn't high maintenance, so I'm alowed to spend a few quid on my greenhouse. As we'd say over here, there are no pockets in a shrowd, (think that's how it's spelt), so you may as well spend it on something that brings you joy before you go to that big garden in the sky
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