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Post by Tel on Jan 30, 2013 19:51:04 GMT
[quote author=markb board=dahlias thread=2389 post=72981 time=1359562112]Received the NDS Winter Bulletin today.
snute, I have some tubers left in the ground but I don't know how they will have survived the wet winter. Any particular varieties you were after?[/quote]
That's a coincidence so did i. ;D
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Post by markb on Jan 30, 2013 20:34:32 GMT
Received the NDS Winter Bulletin today. snute, I have some tubers left in the ground but I don't know how they will have survived the wet winter. Any particular varieties you were after? Hi Markb, Poms mainly plus some of the Westons. The only pom I have in the ground is Wills Ringwood Rosie which you are welcome to try if the tubers are ok. I should warn you though that I grew 20 plants on a triple stop and every bloom went oversize last year - but that could have been down to an excess of rain. I don't grow the Westons but will ask some local growers if they have any. |
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Post by markb on Jan 30, 2013 20:36:30 GMT
[quote author=markb board=dahlias thread=2389 post=72981 time=1359562112 ]Received the NDS Winter Bulletin today.snute, I have some tubers left in the ground but I don't know how they will have survived the wet winter. Any particular varieties you were after? That's a coincidence so did i. ;D[/quote] Only had a quick glance through the bulletin, Tel, but it seems to be in a clearer and better quality format than some previous years. What do you think? Only trouble is that cracking photo of Kilburn Glow on the front has got me thinking about growing a waterlily or three!!! |
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Post by Lou78W on Jan 30, 2013 21:13:39 GMT
[quote author=markb board=dahlias thread=2389 post=72981 time=1359562112 ]Received the NDS Winter Bulletin today.snute, I have some tubers left in the ground but I don't know how they will have survived the wet winter. Any particular varieties you were after? That's a coincidence so did i. ;D[/quote] Even more of a coincidence...I did too........I didn't renew my membership either...forgot..  I see Cornish Paul is still showing Tel.... ;D |
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Post by dcdahlia on Jan 30, 2013 21:22:57 GMT
winter bulletin arrived today and in the countrywide round up (north east) it appears I am noW B.E..Davies
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Post by Tel on Jan 31, 2013 7:21:24 GMT
winter bulletin arrived today and in the countrywide round up (north east) it appears I am noW B.E..Davies Well you are DC dahlia on here, ;D maybe when you fill out your entry form for Harrogate you sign it DC dahlia.   |
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Post by Tel on Jan 31, 2013 7:26:34 GMT
That's a coincidence so did i. ;D
Only trouble is that cracking photo of Kilburn Glow on the front has got me thinking about growing a waterlily or three!!![/quote] I like the new format too. Kilburn Glow, saw this at the Leeds trials and yes it is a beauty. Members when it becomes available it would certainly be a head turner in your gardens.  |
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Post by Tel on Jan 31, 2013 7:30:59 GMT
Reading the show reports up and down the Country all the new small decs released over the last 2-3 years did not figure in the results, Winholme Diane is dominating again.
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Post by markb on Jan 31, 2013 7:44:12 GMT
Reading the show reports up and down the Country all the new small decs released over the last 2-3 years did not figure in the results, Winholme Diane is dominating again. Yes, Tel, I noticed that too. Not been able to grow Winholme here as it damps off at the merest thought of rain. It does seem as though sometimes the judges 'expect' to see certain varieties and look more favourably on them - I know it shouldn't happen but have experienced comments of 'I don't like that' when stewarding at shows. It must be difficult now for newcomers to our hobby who might feel pressurised into growing these 'cream of the crop' when something else would grow better in their area and under their growing methods. |
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 31, 2013 10:33:21 GMT
Reading the show reports up and down the Country all the new small decs released over the last 2-3 years did not figure in the results, Winholme Diane is dominating again. Yes, Tel, I noticed that too. Not been able to grow Winholme here as it damps off at the merest thought of rain. It does seem as though sometimes the judges 'expect' to see certain varieties and look more favourably on them - I know it shouldn't happen but have experienced comments of 'I don't like that' when stewarding at shows.  That sounds very sensible Markb. |
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Post by Tel on Jan 31, 2013 11:11:57 GMT
Reading the show reports up and down the Country all the new small decs released over the last 2-3 years did not figure in the results, Winholme Diane is dominating again. It must be difficult now for newcomers to our hobby who might feel pressurised into growing these 'cream of the crop' when something else would grow better in their area and under their growing methods. I have the same problem with the Diane's i find it can be ok in August, but the still damp nights in September does for them.  |
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Post by scrumpy on Jan 31, 2013 20:11:43 GMT
Maybe the time will come when the usual "winners" can have their own classes, and the rest of the classes are for anything bar.
So it would be the Dianes, the Glorias, the Moonlights with their own competition.
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Post by marynz on Feb 1, 2013 10:19:57 GMT
Some kind of system a bit like golf handicaps may work, so that Dahlias which had taken out a certain number of recent prizes were in an elite category, but there was a real incentive to show in other categories. This would get more cultivars known and enjoyed by the show visitors.
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Post by steve2t on Feb 1, 2013 21:21:07 GMT
I would like to think that the "usual winners" are of superior quality to anything else. But I don't think that is the always the case. I think there is definitely a case of them being a "safe bet" for a judge. And some people have been growing these varieties for years and got them to a "t" which is why I as a novice will not grow them!! I did well with scaur whisper and good old franz kafka last year ( feet are still off the ground!!) If I heard "I don't like them" I would probably have reminded the judge that they were here to judge not like ;D But seriously that is appalling!!
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Post by scrumpy on Feb 2, 2013 0:05:07 GMT
I know it's nice to grow to perfection, and a perfect Winholme Diane will beat a perfect a.n.other every time.
However, that's not always how the public see it. Many a time i've had first with Winholme, but when people look at the blooms, they prefer other entries i've put in like Senzoe Ursula and Barbarry Melody and don't take much notice of the winner.
Same with my Moonlights. They always win yet people prefer looking at Susan Gilliott, and Staleen Condessa ( which I gave up on because I couldn't get a tuber from it). Must admit, I've been surprised with the judging a few times as I wouldn't have put the moonlights first.
The public seem to like the bolder coloured blooms is how I see it.
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