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Post by ian on Jul 15, 2014 12:37:22 GMT
It is always nice to try a couple of new novelty Dahlia's first year on release or if you are lucky enough to get varieties pre release (usually only reserved for the elite) Barbarry Kestral looks very good and a valued addition to the miniature ball section very dark plum colour (I can hear some of you saying its a Barbarry) tust me it is good, grown 12 up 3'6" tall. I will have know problem with using it in my championship entry at the National; I am growing De La Haye again, it is quite an old variety but being shown more; I think you will see more of it on the bench this year; De la Haye is a full size medium semi orange in colour with a yellow centre it does not tend to damp as fast as the moonlights.
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Post by scrumpy on Jul 15, 2014 13:17:03 GMT
Wait till you see my Zoe sport. Then the Kiwis can watch out  Only new one I'm trying that people may not have grown is Clearview Louise. Looks as if it'll be at it's best for Southport, whatever it's best may be. |
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Post by ian on Jul 15, 2014 13:32:45 GMT
Good luck at Southport ill keep my eyes open for it, Clearview Louise is a good variety another one Clearview Tammy a white medium semi cactus is also very good. Any small cactus or semi cactus grown to its potential will beat average Kiwis if judged correctly, Just remember in multivase classes match all your centres up first work from the centre checking form & size, missing floretes, damaged petals (remove them) you can replace them but that is for another time. again good luck
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Post by scrumpy on Jul 15, 2014 14:06:46 GMT
True enough re form. My Ryecroft Zoe beat at least 2 Kiwis and 6 Oakwood Goldrest last year at Southport. Yet at Shrewsbury they came 3rd to Oakwood Goldcrest and Ruskin Andrea. Mind you, 5 were needed in a vase at Shrewsbury, so that made a difference. Pictures are on here somehwere.
Louise is a very compact plant and didn't throw up many laterals. Decided on a double stop very early on, which seems to have worked.
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Post by Moonlight on Jul 15, 2014 16:21:55 GMT
It is always nice to try a couple of new novelty Dahlia's first year on release or if you are lucky enough to get varieties pre release (usually only reserved for the elite) Barbarry Kestral looks very good and a valued addition to the miniature ball section very dark plum colour (I can hear some of you saying its a Barbarry) tust me it is good, grown 12 up 3'6" tall. I will have know problem with using it in my championship entry at the National; I am growing De La Haye again, it is quite an old variety but being shown more; I think you will see more of it on the bench this year; De la Haye is a full size medium semi orange in colour with a yellow centre it does not tend to damp as fast as the moonlights. 
That said I am trying some new varieties this year. I've got Clearview Audrey growing in my garden which was released this year and Clearview Jenny which was released last year. My Dad and I ordered them direct from the US, we've ordered some others. Dad had spare Clearview Sundance but had to say a thanks but no thanks because I have very limited space. Also growing a dahlia called Candy Jayne another
I'm trying Ryecroft Zoe because Scrumpy really rates it and it looks really lovely in his photos.
At one point scrumpy you had a Moonlight sport, (didn't you) I had my fingers crossed about that one but you haven't mentioned it for a long time, so I guess its a nope now.
I'm growing Eastwood Star this year but my Dad is convinced that it looks suspiciously like an Eastwood Moonlight. Won't know till it blooms.
I've also got my fingers crossed for my seedlings. 1 of my Eastwood Moonlight seedlings has a bud on it, so looking forward to seeing what comes out.
I've got others but I shan't make a boring list, I think I've gone on about it enough in my diary, I don't want to go on about it here, everyone will fall asleep. |
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Post by scrumpy on Jul 15, 2014 16:29:32 GMT
It's still going. My main trouble with it is I never get to see it grown to it's full potential, ie, not on a side bud. I stop it later each year and still it wants to flower about now !!
As to Zoe, you should have loads of laterals and buds on it by now. It likes to flower early too, but the more laterals you grow, or grow on side buds, the better. It makes size easily.
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Post by ian on Jul 15, 2014 16:44:42 GMT
That Clearview Audrey looks pretty useful so good luck with that one
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Post by Sean on Jul 15, 2014 21:13:44 GMT
Have been growing the collerettes for a few years but have been given a frame in the same plot as mine so i have decided to grow some giants( around 50). I had some John hill, alvas, valentine and with help from my good friend John Jack I got a few more. He has gave me a new one from Tony kingdom Shirwell George which hasn't been released yet. There is a picture in the NDS bulletin and looks not bad. I am doing them to try give John Jack a good challenge at the Scottish national. I also have a small bet with John Wallace to grow a variety that is older than me so we have went for Wotton Impact which should be a great laugh he beat me last year with the fims.
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Post by scrumpy on Jul 15, 2014 21:19:59 GMT
I gave up on Alvas. No matter what I did to it,some always dropped there petals. On the plant, they are still I reckon one of the best looking giants. Good excuse to show it again  |
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Post by Sean on Jul 15, 2014 21:28:56 GMT
I gave up on Alvas. No matter what I did to it,some always dropped there petals. On the plant, they are still I reckon one of the best looking giants. Good excuse to show it again It's true if you can get it right it can be hard to beat up in cooler Scotland it may be less reluctant to drop. |
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Post by Moonlight on Jul 15, 2014 21:33:09 GMT
It's still going. My main trouble with it is I never get to see it grown to it's full potential, ie, not on a side bud. I stop it later each year and still it wants to flower about now !!
As to Zoe, you should have loads of laterals and buds on it by now. It likes to flower early too, but the more laterals you grow, or grow on side buds, the better. It makes size easily. if you take any photos this year would love to see it and I know my Dad would want to to. I know because he has asked me before, how it was doing.  I hope that this year is the year when you are finally happy with it. If I can get my images sorted out then I'll show you a photo of my Zoe. [/font] |
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Post by Moonlight on Jul 16, 2014 15:04:51 GMT
It is always nice to try a couple of new novelty Dahlia's first year on release or if you are lucky enough to get varieties pre release (usually only reserved for the elite) Barbarry Kestral looks very good and a valued addition to the miniature ball section very dark plum colour (I can hear some of you saying its a Barbarry) tust me it is good, grown 12 up 3'6" tall. I will have know problem with using it in my championship entry at the National; I am growing De La Haye again, it is quite an old variety but being shown more; I think you will see more of it on the bench this year; De la Haye is a full size medium semi orange in colour with a yellow centre it does not tend to damp as fast as the moonlights.
Do you mean all the Moonlights?
Scrumpy.believe me, I know what I am talking about. I have grown, shown and bred Dahlias.
daitheplant I am very interested in hearing about your varieties.
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Post by ian on Jul 16, 2014 16:34:16 GMT
Well the moonlights are a soft petal and do tend to spot out. Downham .Royal is not good enough to compete at the highest level but sure enough a nice Dahlia
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Post by Moonlight on Jul 16, 2014 17:34:25 GMT
Well the moonlights are a soft petal and do tend to spot out. Downham .Royal is not good enough to compete at the highest level but sure enough a nice Dahlia
Downham Royal does have good form and has more of a classic ball shape rather than something like a Mary's Jomanda which has elements of a decorative about it. |
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Post by daitheplant on Jul 16, 2014 18:27:48 GMT
Moonlight, unfortunately I didn`t get that far. I got some new plants to their second flowering year, then started working in a garden centre doing 60 to 70 hours a week. Gave all the plants to my sister. However, I have started growing Dahlias again this year, so may start breeding them again.
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