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Post by robh on Sept 16, 2014 20:55:42 GMT
i cant belive that i still have dahlias that havent flowered yet i have one called scottish rapshody [ellen denny] i hope it comes out this week i planted it the same time as all the others
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dahliadave
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"Chocolate" red seedling 5 plants in a 70cm pot in July.
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Post by dahliadave on Sept 16, 2014 21:44:07 GMT
I remember it as being rather a late flowered variety. Still got a number of varieties that are just getting to their best but that is mainly due to late planting!
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Post by scrumpy on Sept 16, 2014 21:52:24 GMT
It's not necessarily late planting, but maybe late stopping ? I had some replacement Bonaventure from Halls that I didn't plant out until early July. The plants had been stopped, only 3 pairs of leaves on them, and had been grown in one of those cell things. Normally I plant out from 5" pots,and stop giants 10th - 23 rd May, so when I saw these I thought no chance of flowering. But a couple of the plants produced the best giants I have grown this year. Should I ever aim for September flowering blooms again I now know later cuttings will flower in time, and I can save on compost  |
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Post by Raymond on Sept 16, 2014 23:20:30 GMT
Hope you don't mind me saying it can also be position. I have 2 the same started the same time and pinched out the same time one flowered 4 weeks after the other only difference position. One in full sun one in part shade. Some of mine all garden ones currently some are late flowering . Thomas Edison this week Ferncliff illusion Avoca Amanda which I would like to do next year is a naturally late flowering variety. I find stopping very fascinating scrumpy . Looking forward to doing it properly next year. |
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Post by robh on Sept 17, 2014 13:32:39 GMT
i had thomas eddison last lear its a fantastic purple have struggled to get another purple like it
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Post by Raymond on Sept 17, 2014 14:00:12 GMT
It is a cracker robh best purple I have seen. Shame not staying it might though in a pot. Was very slow to get going. Need to change the stock of it. Not happy with the pot tubor I got of it was tiny and took ages .Grew it from the pot tubor if I get another will take cuttings next time. This is it today. Had some earwig damage etc.... But a good looking dahlia all the same. Colour super rich does not photograph well looses the depth of shade.  |
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dahliadave
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"Chocolate" red seedling 5 plants in a 70cm pot in July.
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Post by dahliadave on Sept 17, 2014 16:53:14 GMT
It's not necessarily late planting, but maybe late stopping ? I had some replacement Bonaventure from Halls that I didn't plant out until early July. The plants had been stopped, only 3 pairs of leaves on them, and had been grown in one of those cell things. Normally I plant out from 5" pots,and stop giants 10th - 23 rd May, so when I saw these I thought no chance of flowering. But a couple of the plants produced the best giants I have grown this year. Should I ever aim for September flowering blooms again I now know later cuttings will flower in time, and I can save on compost Hi Scrumpy, With us its late cuttings, late stopping and late planting! Take cuttings mid April, tray up mid-end May in 10cm shuttle trays, stopped the day before we plant which this year was the 19th June! Need to do my Bryn terfel, Sir Alf, Craigowan etc earlier as they are just coming into bloom. Most others were in flower form mid-end August. Found over the years that the fresher the plant, the quicker it gets away without any check (goes without saying really. Years gone by they used to sit on a sand bench and get a bit too rooted in and they used to take what seemed like an age to get going - and also take longer to plant. Last year we even planted out plugs on June 2st and they were still in flower for September. Normally manage to plant 3000 in a day with 6 of us as long as everything is organised!! |
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Post by scrumpy on Sept 17, 2014 17:58:51 GMT
Getting more difficult timing the giants. They seem to be wanting to flower earlier and earlier for me. If your giants are for display for a certain time and they are going to be early, I've found that Sir Alf and Bryn Terfel flower quite well off a wing bed. These are wing buds  They are ready 2- 3 weeks later than the crown bud. And that's a lot of plants in one day. I struggle with 50 a day !! |
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Post by ian on Sept 17, 2014 18:13:24 GMT
That is the best way to get a better foot stalk on Bryn is by growing it on a wing bud that is a must far superior than the main bud
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