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Post by ian on Oct 8, 2014 13:31:05 GMT
Raymond you can grow much better Dahlias than Duncan Edwards it is now classified as a large so has to be a large so grown 3-4 up the one thing in it's favor is that it is weather proof and does not fade and a great colour, it has lots of petal so therefore is better if a couple of rows of petals are removed whilst it develops or grown on a knock back. At this moment in time Kenora Challenger is still the best large and if you can get Hamari Accord to the show without it marking that is excellent. Incidentally Duncan Edwards has sported purple for the raiser, so that is on its way in a year or two.
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Post by Ian k on Oct 8, 2014 13:48:22 GMT
Hello you can't get any better than challenger if you can get good stock or grow this variety, I can't so I grow trooper dan, kenora valentine
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Post by ian on Oct 8, 2014 13:53:23 GMT
My stock is very good and happy to let you have some if you pay the postage. Trooper Dan not a patch on Challenger
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Post by Tel on Oct 8, 2014 13:57:30 GMT
Hello you can't get any better than challenger if you can get good stock or grow this variety, I can't so I grow trooper dan, kenora valentine Welcome to the forum westauckland19
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Post by Ian k on Oct 8, 2014 13:58:58 GMT
Yes I totally agree thanks for the offer Ian but my allotment will not grow this variety it have tried stock from both phil watson , and ian Sutherland both national champions but still no good
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Post by Tel on Oct 8, 2014 14:00:36 GMT
Raymond you can grow much better Dahlias than Duncan Edwards it is now classified as a large so has to be a large so grown 3-4 up the one thing in it's favor is that it is weather proof and does not fade and a great colour, it has lots of petal so therefore is better if a couple of rows of petals are removed whilst it develops or grown on a knock back. At this moment in time Kenora Challenger is still the best large and if you can get Hamari Accord to the show without it marking that is excellent. Incidentally Duncan Edwards has sported purple for the raiser, so that is on its way in a year or two. I wonder if Clearview Edie will challenge the Challenger, if it can be kept clean.
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Post by Ian k on Oct 8, 2014 14:01:41 GMT
Thanks very much Tel are you the person to ask about stock of Rycroft Zoe, I am a very good mate of DCdahlia
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Post by Ian k on Oct 8, 2014 14:06:55 GMT
Clearview Edie I have not seen this variety Tel , has it just been released or has it been around a while
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Post by Tel on Oct 8, 2014 14:19:07 GMT
Thanks very much Tel are you the person to ask about stock of Rycroft Zoe, I am a very good mate of DCdahlia I think that is scrumpy, Glad you joined us, DC has been with us a while now.
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Post by Tel on Oct 8, 2014 14:20:21 GMT
Clearview Edie I have not seen this variety Tel , has it just been released or has it been around a while I do not have it, but a few people have spoken about it.
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Post by Lou78W on Oct 8, 2014 14:22:16 GMT
Ian k A big welcome from me too. Its nice to see existing members bringing "new blood" to the boards
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Post by Lou78W on Oct 8, 2014 14:27:44 GMT
Hi ian I have emailed les it is still available so am ordering the tubor 2 of them. I am also ordering the root t grow lights heat mats etc... Jersie will be my main show variety along with zoe, winholm Diane and Mary's Jomanda. Will add some miniatures to this as well pirate and a min Dec. May try a pom. The rest in threes to try in garden display at front and see what I am capable of growing and playing with disbudding etc... Mostly small, med and one large. Jersie looks a really lovely dahlia hope I can grow it well along with the others. Was looking at Duncan Edwards for my only large . Does anyone grow it ? Hi Raymond.......this is an observation, not a criticism..... I notice that you are choosing very new, untried varieties to start your showing career with? I remember when I was "rookie novice"....a certain member of this forum advised me to look at what had been winning in my local shows; pick tried and tested varieties....not too many at first as you will need to grow at least 6/8 plants to choose your final blooms from....especially if you don't have huge areas of growing space. I know there are lots of gorgeous varieties to choose from and it can be confusing....but you need the right varieties to win....
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Post by Tel on Oct 8, 2014 14:29:05 GMT
Yes I totally agree thanks for the offer Ian but my allotment will not grow this variety it have tried stock from both phil watson , and ian Sutherland both national champions but still no good It can be confusing who people really are with user names westauckland, Ian Sutherland is Ian on here. I think all dahlia growers should let other growers know who they are. I will start it off. I am Terry Haigh From Bradford West Yorkshire.
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Post by ian on Oct 8, 2014 14:38:04 GMT
I am Spartacus.......................oh Ian is indeed Ian Sutherland and that is Me. Why wont Challenger grow for you Westaukland19 Man.
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Post by Tel on Oct 8, 2014 14:52:10 GMT
Hi ian I have emailed les it is still available so am ordering the tubor 2 of them. I am also ordering the root t grow lights heat mats etc... Jersie will be my main show variety along with zoe, winholm Diane and Mary's Jomanda. Will add some miniatures to this as well pirate and a min Dec. May try a pom. The rest in threes to try in garden display at front and see what I am capable of growing and playing with disbudding etc... Mostly small, med and one large. Jersie looks a really lovely dahlia hope I can grow it well along with the others. Was looking at Duncan Edwards for my only large . Does anyone grow it ? Hi Raymond.......this is an observation, not a criticism..... I notice that you are choosing very new, untried varieties to start your showing career with? I remember when I was "rookie novice"....a certain member of this forum advised me to look at what had been winning in my local shows; pick tried and tested varieties....not too many at first as you will need to grow at least 6/8 plants to choose your final blooms from....especially if you don't have huge areas of growing space. I know there are lots of gorgeous varieties to choose from and it can be confusing....but you need the right varieties to win.... I agree with Lou, Raymond, Lou did very well indeed in her first season. New varieties are something you can try later, but you need to start with Dahlia's that have a proven track record.
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