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Post by scrumpy on May 5, 2015 13:53:03 GMT
After last years problems, looking to get something decent as all the things I used last year didn't do a very good job.
Anybody got some good recommendations?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 16:27:28 GMT
Scrumpy I read a couple of interesting things on the internet.... Quite a few Organic types suggest 2 parts water to one part milk. Sprayed all over the plant apparently altering the PH level on the leaf surface making it hard for mildew to form. Dilute Jeyes is another thing.. not tried either to be honest! However I did last year cure rampant whitefly on my neighbours Brassicas with cheap Tesco lemon washing up liquid!
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Post by daitheplant on May 5, 2015 18:25:28 GMT
Scrumpy I read a couple of interesting things on the internet.... Quite a few Organic types suggest 2 parts water to one part milk. Sprayed all over the plant apparently altering the PH level on the leaf surface making it hard for mildew to form. Dilute Jeyes is another thing.. not tried either to be honest! However I did last year cure rampant whitefly on my neighbours Brassicas with cheap Tesco lemon washing up liquid! Just beware David, if caught using any of those 3 methods you face a big fine. In the EU using anything that is not a registered pesticide is illegal.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 19:40:10 GMT
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Post by daitheplant on May 5, 2015 20:00:39 GMT
If milk prevents mould. How come we have blue cheeses? I just advised you on horticulural law is all. Also, Jeyes fluid used to be used as a weedkiller and washing-up liquid as an insecticde rather than a fungicide.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 20:10:00 GMT
Thanks Dai, I don't have much faith in that realistically. Will stick to conventional fungicide for my Dahlias. Must be said, if you've got full on Mildew or whitefly, it's hard to get rid of. Saw a copper based spray (from the US) on Ebay or Amazon, supposed to be good but no doubt frowned upon by the EU......
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Post by daitheplant on May 5, 2015 20:15:12 GMT
Basically Dave, any decent pesticides have been taken off the market and banned. You and Scrumpy could try Fungus Clear.
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Post by Tel on May 6, 2015 7:33:40 GMT
I use Systhane fungicide when the plants suffered from smut.
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Post by daitheplant on May 6, 2015 18:58:08 GMT
Is Systhane still going then Tel? I believe Dithane has been taken off.
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Post by scrumpy on May 6, 2015 19:24:55 GMT
Systhane discontinued now. Unless you go professional at £100 a bottle. But it worked.
Nimrod used to be good. Still available to the professionals. But it worked.
Fungus clear should be renamed Fungus don't clear on last years performance.
After speaking to a few nurserymen it looks like it's Bumper time and stuff the EU and their barmy rules.
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Post by daitheplant on May 6, 2015 19:29:12 GMT
You are right there scrumpy. As I said earlier, all the good treatments have been banned. They are talking about banning Glyphosate now.
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Post by scrumpy on May 6, 2015 20:20:17 GMT
You are right there scrumpy. As I said earlier, all the good treatments have been banned. They are talking about banning Glyphosate now. What damage does that cause for goodness sake. Looking at these new fungicides, they seem to be based on triazoles that are used in medicine to treat numerous skin and personal feminine problems, so I guess if you can't get to your doctor you may as well use what is left over to see if it helps And for those of you who have nits, if you don't use all the Derbac liquid, you can dilute it down and spray your roses. After all, it is Malathion. |
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Post by daitheplant on May 6, 2015 20:37:09 GMT
The thing is. The dozy sods in the EU force feed mice with these chemicals until they die. Then say tha makes them unsafe for humans. The cretins should talk to gardeners rather than murder mice. Should we suggest a new law? Let us replace mice with MEP`s.
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Post by Tel on May 7, 2015 5:01:56 GMT
Is Systhane still going then Tel? I believe Dithane has been taken off. Its not the Systhane 20EW I use the Bayer Systhane fungus fighter. daitheplant |
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Post by Tel on May 7, 2015 5:06:39 GMT
You are right there scrumpy. As I said earlier, all the good treatments have been banned. They are talking about banning Glyphosate now. Roundup, the world’s most widely used weedkiller, “probably” causes cancer, the World Health Organisation (WHO) has said. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) – WHO’s cancer agency – said that glyphosate, the active ingredient in the herbicide made by agriculture company Monsanto, was “classified as probably carcinogenic to humans”. It also said there was “limited evidence” that glyphosate was carcinogenic in humans for non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Monsanto, the world’s largest seed company, said scientific data did not support the conclusions and called on WHO to hold an urgent meeting to explain the findings. “We don’t know how IARC could reach a conclusion that is such a dramatic departure from the conclusion reached by all regulatory agencies around the globe,” said Philip Miller, Monsanto’s vice-president of global regulatory affairs. Concerns about glyphosate on food have been widely debated in the US recently, and contributed to the passage in Vermont last year of the country’s first mandatory labelling law for genetically modified food. The US government considers the herbicide to be safe. In 2013, Monsanto requested and received approval from the US Environmental Protection Agency for increased tolerance levels for glyphosate. It is mainly used on crops such as corn and soybeans, which are genetically modified to survive it. The weedkiller has been detected in food, water and in the air after it has been sprayed, according to the report from WHO. However, glyphosate use is generally low in and near homes where the general public would face the greatest risk of exposure, the report said. The evidence for WHO’s conclusion was from studies of exposure, mostly agricultural, in the US, Canada, and Sweden that were published since 2001. |
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