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Post by ian on Sept 18, 2014 20:28:10 GMT
You must have lots of money if you are going to buy from Halls Hehe sorry David good plants. If you are thinking of using your garage then a root!t grow light may be a good first acquisition the light has a stand that comes with it they are not too expensive. There are many grow lights and can be very expensive. The root!t mats rant bad either. Ian
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Post by scrumpy on Sept 18, 2014 20:30:57 GMT
Not necessarily the case. All my zoe sport cuttings came from tiny tubers, and I mean tiny. The cuttings that followed on were about as thin as the point on a dart I use a different rooting method to Ian. With mine, no need to spray three times a day, humidity is maintained with the lid. Anyway, a whole section on it here link
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Post by ian on Sept 18, 2014 20:38:20 GMT
You missed the point Scrumpy he asked about taking cuttings leaving a piece of the tuber attached, if this is the case then no cutting would replace the one just taken. I successfully take approx 3000 cuttings and my only lose 6 to a dozen cuttings, as I said I use a mist system. As you say if using a lid humidity is maintained.
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Post by scrumpy on Sept 18, 2014 20:44:43 GMT
You missed the point Scrumpy he asked about taking cuttings leaving a piece of the tuber attached, if this is the case then no cutting would replace the one just taken. I successfully take approx 3000 cuttings and my only lose 6 to a dozen cuttings, as I said I use a mist system. As you say if using a lid humidity is maintained. Must have missed that little bit Didn't know you could do that. Never done that myself, would always recommend not to as a succession of cuttings is what we want.
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Post by ian on Sept 18, 2014 20:50:03 GMT
There is nothing wrong with taking cuttings in this way if you can get the required numbers from the tubers, they do give very healthy cuttings that give a great root ball. I find that towards the end of the time for propagating I pull the cuttings from the tuber leaving a piece of tuber behind and these make pretty good tubers that will throw cutting all they way around the crown of the tuber.
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dahliadave
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Post by dahliadave on Sept 18, 2014 20:52:46 GMT
You missed the point Scrumpy he asked about taking cuttings leaving a piece of the tuber attached, if this is the case then no cutting would replace the one just taken. I successfully take approx 3000 cuttings and my only lose 6 to a dozen cuttings, as I said I use a mist system. As you say if using a lid humidity is maintained. Must have missed that little bit Didn't know you could do that. Never done that myself, would always recommend not to as a succession of cuttings is what we want. Surprising how many people think that they need to take a cutting with a bit of the tuber attached and that is probably why some get so few cuttings from tubers. We get the question 5-6 times a season. One of the well known garden writers for a popular gardening weekly even advised this method. Ok if you only a want a few and just doing them for the garden but not, as you say, when you need a good number of them like we do.
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Post by ian on Sept 18, 2014 20:56:56 GMT
Hi David do you still want De la Haye?
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Post by Raymond on Sept 18, 2014 21:27:37 GMT
You must have lots of money if you are going to buy from Halls Hehe sorry David good plants. If you are thinking of using your garage then a root!t grow light may be a good first acquisition the light has a stand that comes with it they are not too expensive. There are many grow lights and can be very expensive. The root!t mats rant bad either. Ian Cheers ian ! I can assure you I don't have a lot of money but want good stock. My main stock will come from Kent members tubor sale. With some extra from halls and eurodahlia of specific ones I want to try singles of plus the odd back up. Been great reading all the posts scrumpy dahliadaveSarah raven is the one that promotes taking cuttings with a tiny slice of tubor with the cutting. She does also talk about taking cuttings from young plants which I will also try. When you search online she is very high profile on all search engines so maybe that is why David gets so many enquiries regarding this. As a newbie you look online and use the info you find. I only found garden friends after I planted 56 garden centre packet jobs. And they are the same price as halls Although tubors from gc. I will try both techniques with cuttings next year and see if I see a difference. As I only need 60 for comp it is ok and only in five classifications now..cutting back so I can focus more. Novice cup main aim. Speaking to John Carter last night he does not take cuttings on any of his collarettes he divides the tubors to increase his stock. His collarettes are consistently good Clair de lune he grows beautifully.
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dahliadave
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Post by dahliadave on Sept 18, 2014 21:42:12 GMT
I have found over the years that everyone has their different ways of doing things. What works for you may not work for someone else- that is one of the beauties (or frustrations) of gardening and this hobby that we all enjoy- and hey, if it was ALL easy it wouldn't be so much fun!
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Post by Raymond on Sept 18, 2014 21:42:39 GMT
Can I ask a question on dividing tubors ian dahliadave scrumpy All my current stock will be given away to friends at work. That's if I over winter them properly. What I would like to do is divide the tubors. I know they must have an eye or no stem will be produced. On USA sites they say to remove the main mother tubor from that season and leave the young tubors and split accordingly as the mother tubor can rot. Is this correct ?
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Post by ian on Sept 18, 2014 21:50:34 GMT
Yes
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Post by Raymond on Sept 18, 2014 22:24:04 GMT
Thank you ian Good night all.
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Post by MarkE on Sept 24, 2014 13:59:48 GMT
just thought I would add a pic of my little dahlia plot. As you can see I've already got it extended for next year, im going to grow across the plot next year! Room for about 80 plants.
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Post by Tel on Sept 24, 2014 14:22:24 GMT
just thought I would add a pic of my little dahlia plot. As you can see I've already got it extended for next year, im going to grow across the plot next year! Room for about 80 plants. 80 plants eh, I would not bet on that grass been there, in a couple of years time.
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Post by scrumpy on Sept 24, 2014 15:34:16 GMT
Nor those bushes and tree if they belong to him.
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